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Published 08.10.2014 | Author : admin | Category : Simple Boat Plans

I have been looking at building a boat for a bit now, I am looking at the Vagabond 20' or 23' as a trailer sailor, large enough for a weekend sail with the kids and small enough to haul.
If so what did you find challenging about the build or what improvements would you suggest?
Location: Australia It might be a bit too sporty for your requirements but a current design for home building that is gaining momentum is the i550.
Nice looking craft, I'll take it into consideration ,and review it today, I appreciate your replies, good budget to build as well I see. That said a 20-25 ft is a great size and trailerable, although I can set a mooring at his place and not have to worry about the trailering so much. Location: OREGON Scroll down to see a very pretty sailboat called the Kingston Lobster Boat. Originally Posted by rasorinc Scroll down to see a very pretty sailboat called the Kingston Lobster Boat. Best, Stan I agree rosorinc that is a beautiful boat, and thanks for the post, I have a issues of the woodenboat magazine and they have a nice weekender in the latest issue. Location: New Brunswick, Canada I really appreciate the input from everyone, it is reassuring that a boat build is in my future and to have the many folks here to pick their brains. I am relatively new to the entire nautical lifestyle, enjoyed a few boats in my youth, and enjoyed learning to sail and am so excited to get a build going! I hate to be the devil's advocate here, but building a boat is a big commitment in terms of time, money and effort.
We have been sailing as the crew on the Allyance,(brother-in-law's) a 27ft Hunter, for a few summers now, and both my wife and I love it. I have the full support of my wife on the build (as long as the other regular house maintenace doesn't go slack LOL).
I really liked a lot of the reasons behind the CLC Pocketship as detailed in the Woodenboat article and on the CLC website. I am now on my THIRD build and i know it sounds absolutely CRAZY that i started another small build in the middle of my big build, but what i learned this time around will save me MANY hours of time further down the line.
The learning curve is endless and i can now absolutely prove it - that by building a small dinghy first, you do save time and money.
When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Boat Building Academy student Ian Baird’s project to build a replica of the rare Dorset crab and lobster boat known as Witch of Worbarrow during his course is continuing apace, as it must to be be ready for the big launch on the 9th December.
Ian, who was a novice woodworker at the beginning of his nine month course at the BBA, has been commissioned to write three articles on his experiences for Watercraft Magazine. The launch of the BBA’s March 2010 project boats will take place in the harbour at Lyme Regis, Dorset, at 9am on Wednesday 9th December 2010. Have you got news for us?If what you're doing is like the things you read about here - please write and tell us what you're up to. Classic Sailor is a new magazine about traditional and classic boats from ex-Classic Boat editor Dan Houston and colleagues that promises rather more coverage of the traditional craft around our coast.
Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Follow me on TwitterLooking for something?This is a busy weblog, and what you're looking for is probably still here - just a little way down the list now. Our Faversham-based friend Alan Thorne can help with boatbuilding projects - constructing to plans in very tidy stitch-and-glue or more traditional techniques.
Location: San Francisco Boat building workshop I am hosting a four day hands-on boat building workshop in my backyard in San Francisco. Location: Tasmania,Australia Its a great twist that Derek has - get paid to design a boat, then get the builders to pay for the privilege of building it too. I would like to hear from any Kelsall design builder who actually finished a boat without Derek being on site to supervise the KSS method. Location: San Francisco Actually, when Derek holds a workshop the builder, who is usually building his own boat, gets all kinds of free help as the class works on part of their boat and Derek is onsite to answer questions that come up, both of which benefit the builder. Also, this design is not a Kesall design - it is a resurrected Micronesian design from hundreds of years ago. Originally Posted by pedruperez Actually, when Derek holds a workshop the builder, who is usually building his own boat, gets all kinds of free help as the class works on part of their boat and Derek is onsite to answer questions that come up, both of which benefit the builder.
I have been a fan of his work since his first plywood designs, and his innovative work in plywood. Location: San Francisco The 47 foot Chamorro Flying Proa that we built using redwood took two years to build and cost about $20k just for materials, and that was in California, not in the Marianas where it would have cost three times as much. Now that we've built the proa it has become a cultural treasure - it is the first one in over 250 years. We consider that if we can teach the younger generations how to build and sail again and if we can get 500 Chamorro Flying Proas on the water at the same time once again, that we will have recovered our maritime tradition. Our plan to get to 500 proas is to build three canoe houses - one on Guam, one on Saipan and one in San Diego where there is a large Chamorro community. I also suspect that foam and glass will survive longer than timber in the marine environment, which would make it good value.
Even so, have you done the detailed costing of marine plywood ( not timber ) with say epoxy ? If you want to teach people to build boats, plywood is by far and away the easiest technique - especially if you want to get 500 + boats in the water. Location: Duluth, Minnesota Cool, i dont know how i didnt know that, i learnt something today.
Location: Tasmania,Australia Yes, he may have started early on foam, but not exclusively since the 60's by any means. I am still curious if you have actually done the costing between ply and foam, considering you have so many boats you want to get in the water.


It could be a late 40's, early 50's Chris Craft deluxe or sedan, but some of the details are wrong.
Location: Norway Boatpicture I Have done some research on your image, and it looks like a ''brand new'' '1950 Chris Craft Super Deluxe. Boat Building Academy students Mike Tyler, Jon Bicknell and Andy Blundy built this strip-built South Bay-style catboat to a design worked up by the students with the help of instructor Mike Broome. Mike Tyler is now at Pangbourne, Reading, and involved in setting up the new Beale Park Maritime Museum.
Jon comes from a background in information technology design and Jon worked predominantly with Mike on Lucie – although did spend an hour here and there on other builds. Having finished the course is now busy finding his feet in the boat building industry. I am part of a team of volunteers at the Long Island Marine Museum where a full size Gil Smith Catboat was newly built several years ago.
Tiernan adds that the reason most boats for sale today are made of fiberglass is that they can be made by semiskilled and unskilled workers who are cheaper to hire than the skilled craftspeople needed to build a wooden boat. Another is that when we build in wood or commission others to do so, we are helping to maintain an important tradition. I wonder also whether the argument that building from wood is environmentally friendly has really been made.
PS Fans of the US designer John Atkin will be interested to know that Tiernan is currently weblogging the build of a clinker-built Atkin Ninigret.
PPS I’d draw your attention to some of the comments below, particularly those of West Country boat designer, occasional building and general sailing man John Hesp.
Gavin, most of Tiernan's list deals with the engineering advantages of wood, as if we bought boats based on these facts. Trees have been growing, falling over, rotting, releasing CO2 into the atmosphere for years and it hasn't caused a massive increase in atmospheric CO2. I do see what you mean – it seems unreasonable to reduce these issues to numbers and engineering criteria when one of the key reasons we go boating is often to get away from such prosaic considerations. Nevertheless, these issues are worth considering as I'm sure your inner designer will concede, and the environmental questions are much more subtle than most of us thought at the beginning.
And of course, carbon emissions are tightly connected to economic activity and human activity in general.
On the other side of the issue, some fraction of whatever carbon there is in a plastic boat will remain locked in the material for a very long time. You don't think you've been led down the garden path by what sounds a rather journalistic BBC article? Ironing and washing, to be fair – both need more heat where cotton shirts are concerned. One interesting little tidbit I read recently is that the meat industry in one way or another, contributes significantly more to global warming than transportation, worldwide. One other nice thing about wooden boats, which has already been touched on a bit, but a nice one is gives pleasure to people, even when they aren't normally interested in boats. If the global warming cost of fossil fuels is added to that fuel we find ourselves playing a very different game. Did you know that one barrel of oil contains the same amount of energy as 12 men working for one year? Image coming back to shore after a day on the water on a foggy day in an aluminum boat and the oars are clunking against metal. I was reading on the Farrier site (and the site where the F-39 builder is using infusion) about the heat molding of foam over planking to do one off hulls. On average, how many layers of fiberglass with epoxy go into typical boats on the inside and outside of the foam?
Sorry for all the questions, I just really want to lean more about composite boat building (for academic purposes only). Chris Ostlind Previous Member   Write to Henny (the guy building the vacuum infused F boat in Netherlands) and ask him a few questions. Chris Ostlind Previous Member   Farrier says it isn't necessary to bag or infuse his boats.
Location: Port Gamble, Washington, USA Henny van Oortmarssen has been using infusion to build a Farrier F-39, and he has a great website that talks about the whole process. If you were to heat form the foam, remove it from the mold and vacuum bag it, would the vacuum deform the foam or does it just produce normal forces on the laminate?
If this does deform the shape and you choose to vacuum bag you would have to lift the foam out of the mold put plastic down, put the foam back, seal it then somehow brace it to the mold framing. Tor is using vacuum bagging along with the resin infusion process but note that I do not recommend infusion for hulls unless you really want cleanliness, or would just like to try the process. The pic Im thinking of has two heavy unrigged clinker rowed boats on the beach and I think a group of women with nets and fish baskets, I have a print here, somewhere but cannot find it. Try scrolling down, clicking on the 'older posts' button at the bottom of this page - or try the search gadget!
The builder asks Derek to host a workshop, not the other way around, and the builder doesn't pay for the workshops. The traditional material was the wood from breadfruit trees that were abundant on the islands, but it is not available today due to loss of undeveloped land and the greatly increased instances of super-typhoons in the last 20 years that knock down the taller trees. The fact that the material isn't wood is not ideal, but on the other hand the Chamorro flying proa is a Chamorro invention and the design is unique in the world, so we reason that whatever material is used, it is a Chamorro proa.
The idea is that anyone who wants to build a flying proa can just pay for the materials and go to the canoe house to use the table, tools, etc. I know he has been doing foam core cats and tris since Toria in the 60s, one of of not the earliest foam core multies. However, he seems to be a man of many interests: previously he had studied sculpture at art college, where he frequently worked with driftwood, and dreamed of becoming a boat builder. Boatbuilders teach each other, and the skills have long been conveyed by oral transmission.


But if we only build boats out of oil, and keep a constant number of trees, there will be a nett increase in CO2. I became aware of this when a BBC magazine looked at the issue and decided that the heat consumed in ironing a cotton shirt meant that poly-cotton shirts were a better environmental deal; so it seems to me that we should consider all the inputs and outputs, not just the obvious ones.
Gaseous hydrocarbons are often very powerful greenhouse gases, and if a boat needs eight coats of varnish every two years, what's the impact of that?
I wish someone would give me some nice, clear well worked answers that left me knowing where I was on all this, and that I could quote when the issue arises.
I can guarantee that the energy expended per year ironing my cotton shirts is less than it takes to make a years worth of polyester shirts…. And it seems to me that I've never even owned an iron that got hot enough to iron a cotton shirt properly! We should use wood because we want to, and save our agonizing about our carbon footprints for the times when it really counts. I am not about to give up my roast lamb, but cutting my meat intake in half would do me good, and probably make a more significant dent in my carbon footprint than all the other little fiddles one reads about put together. The difference in the reaction of people when I am paddling some rental day-glo plastic fantastic canoe, and when they see me in my little varnished oak and pine S-O-F canoe is remarkable. I seem to remember writing about the issue years ago, and finding that the energy savings from triple glazing can take a century to pay back the investment. What's needed is some sort of mechanism where the cost of dealing with CO2 problems are paid for by the sources of CO2, then triple glazing and the like would look a lot more attractive finacially.
If person A manufactures a triple glazed panel using oil based energy sources the cost of energy is very low but the CO2 generated is very high.
The cost of the triple glazed panel goes up slightly because of the embodied energy, but the cost of the energy being saved over, say, 20 years is a very worthwhile saving. Theres a tigermoth biplane at our local airport that is probably 60-70 years old with wooden wing spars that DO flex. He has also prepared a nice DVD of his process along with a suggested materials listing so that you, too, could infuse your own multihull (or most any other boat, for that matter) The price for the DVD is extremely nominal compared to the learning experience that it represents on Henny's dime. Vacuum bagging hulls alone is also nice, and will give a superior product, but it is also not necessary and will increase building time. Building a current design with a growing fleet might be a cheaper option as the resale value will be better.
The one in San Diego, with a make-shift tarp sail that is only 70% of the proper size has hit 15 knots. With our busy working and family lives I have no hesitation in saying that we own and use at least one boat that we wouldn’t be able to keep up it on a DIY basis if it was made from wood. For example, when wood eventually rots its breakdown must release carbon dioxide and the much worse global warming gas methane. If the returns are so small, I'd suggest there are likely to be other areas we could cut down on that would make more of a difference. If person B manufactures the same panel using energy from photovoltaics the cost of energy is very high, but the CO2 released is very low. Vacuum bagging is only recommended for flat panels like bulkheads, where it is very easy to do, but again, not necessary. Andrews NB or Grand Manan, but for the most part as mentioned before mostly river sailing. This proa is currently in the San Diego Maritime Museum, on the water until the end of July.
We will build a 25 foot proa hull and outrigger and there will be demonstrations of how to build catamaran hulls. The reason for that number is that in the old days, in the 1600s and 1700s, Europeans arriving in the islands reporting seeing hundreds of proas on the water. We don’t see a lot of Catboats but I reckon they suit our sailing grounds remarkably well.
So what is the lifetime cost of a wooden boat to the environment compared with a plastic one? With regard to the maintenance I was referring to epoxy encapsulated wood like the Ninigret I'm building. The recession might have lowered energy costs, but I can see us coming out of it with soaring energy costs.
Now we want to build more using modern materials that are less expensive and for this we have chosen the KSS method of foam resin infusion (foam infused with polyester resin sandwiched between two layers of fiberglass using vacuum bagging).
Any material has to be shipped in and foam, resin and glass is much cheaper to ship than wood due to the weight and container space.
Maybe plastic boat owners are more inclined to motor than sail, and maybe plastic boat owners are more attracted to resource hogging marinas? Sure, we need a reasonably big car to haul the family around, but could we get away with an overgrown go-cart for the commute to work?
The cost for the four day workshop is $750 for the entire workshop and includes coffee and lunch each day.
The sailing tradition was completely lost during Spanish colonization when the Chamorro population dropped from 80k to 2k people due to disease and war, and the Spanish forced all the Chamroros off the 14 northern islands and onto Guam where they were forbidden to build proas or even to sail off the reef. Just to add a factor that seems relevant, what is the contribution to global warming made by the drying of spirit-based paints and varnish? If you've never built anything out of fiberglass, this workshop will give you the practical skills and knowledge to build a boat.



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