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Location: NW Washington State USA I think we kinda sorta had this discussion before and concluded that a Grand Banks 36 took 50 hp to make 7 knots and a Willard 40 took 23.
Originally Posted by norwester I have been trying to locate a source for troller designs but have not had much luck.
Location: Flattop Islands The vast majority of trollers (and all West Coast fishboats in fact) are not built from plans.
Location: Flattop Islands A 40' troller drawn by Frank Fredette of Victoria in 1961. Location: Flattop Islands A big heavy 48' troller by Bill Garden, designed in the late 50's. Location: Mobile ,AL 84 monterey clipper fiberglass Here is a 1984 Fiberglass Monterey Clipper built by Joe Fellipi of Moss Landing CA. Location: USA Salmon Trollers On a recent rip from Monterey to san Diego along the coasst highway, I sa a few of the 27 to 28 foot older Monterey Clippers for sale. And w bulbus bows I always wonder why they don't just make the upper bow as long as the "bulb"??
The cost of modifying the bulb runs over $1,000,000 so many are accepting the poor fuel results , in the hope the trade will resume ,,someday. There ARE fuel savings from going slower , as in every boat , the savings are just nor optimum.When the gas bill is in Tons per hour , everything counts!
Another fine place is the Peobody Museum in Salem, be sure to Visit the Salem Maritime National Park while there. For a real authentic experiace go to Gloucester and join the crew of the Schooner Adventure. I would eliminate the back cabin that a lot of them have and install refrigerated fish boxes in the decks.
As for accomidations 4 bunks in the bow and a gally with stove, sink & diesil cabin heater. When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. The COMPAK is a diverse trailer that can be adjusted to a range of lengths to accommodate various sized boats.
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Not to defend sail boats, but to really see the pros and cons of each kind of boat, regarding cruising costs, price of the boat and maintenance. Location: USA Two beautiful boats I agree that the two boats are really great. Location: USA Seaspark, Good idea on the new thread The idea of a cruising vessel with long range and low fuel consumption may be the direction that we all are taking. We don't miss water skiing behind and it's nice to sit back, make a cup of tea, and drink it while the Whitsundays go past. Originally Posted by Greenseas2 The motorsailers without a mast and larger fuel capacity may be the answer.n You guys do good work. Location: Pontevedra, Spain Banjers (37' motorsailers) have a canoe stern and deep vee hull with full length keel, so lots of wetted surface.
My boat's engine is a Perkins M 4-236 delivering a maximum of 71 HP DIN (86 HP SAE) at 2500 rpm. The Banjer hull would indeed make the basis for a good long raange cruising boat under power and has the capacity for additional tankage. Location: Pontevedra, Spain Attached you'll find the very nice and slender lines of a beautiful 50' old wooden Irish fishing boat. Originally Posted by Greenseas2 In studying hanson troller designs further, the underwater hull design is quite close to being that of efficent sailing vessels. Location: Flattop Islands Okay, I love the styling of the Banjer and all the old fishboats. Location: Pontevedra, Spain The 'Alejandra' you mention was the one owned by Mario Conde? By the way, several images at your web site's Portfolio are not working properly and is quite annoying.
Location: USA Troller cruising boats All of the pictured boats are great. This can get quite dangerous as the vessel will loose stability as the fuel is burned off , unless its ONE damn BIG boat!
Location: USA Other expendable load Fred, what's the difference betwen a fuel load and the ice melting on a troller.
Ordinarily the fuel is quite low in the hull , and the ice is hopefully replaced with dead fish to pay for the diesel. Location: Oregon Converted sailboat My boat is smaller than what is being discussed, but I believe my experiences are applicible. I did not have any luck with pictures last time but will try again to post what I am patterning my build after.
Location: USA Experience Just spent two weeks in California running a 32 foot monterey troller and a 31 footer as well as taking lines from several that were on blocks. Also, the troller hull is no great joy to steer in rough seas, they need constant attention, so fit a really good autopilot. Location: The heights of High Wycombe, not too far from River Thames Lottsa knots for notta lotta dosh. On Malcolm Tennant's site, a very strong case is made for his displacement catamaran designs, on the basis of fuel efficiency and spacious accommodation. I might have been tempted by the VG26, if sticks and sheets still held the appeal they had for me in the eighties. There are two options for the LB26 and I shall go for marine ply and epoxy, thus reserving my right to post progress on WoodenBoat Forum. I don't need the year or displacement or measurements or anything - just curious about what sort of boat it is, since it seems like exactly the type of boat I would want if I were a boating man. Googling double-ender trawlers (because double-ender cabin cruiser did not get me anywhere) got me this photo.


Given the location, it might have been designed by the late William Garden, or it might be a whaleboat conversion.
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Originally Posted by Greenseas2 The large and fast boats stil;l remain at the mercy, or lack of, the big oil companies. Location: USA Slimming it down LOL and agree, but how many people are there at the top of the oil industry that have boats or yachts.
Originally Posted by Greenseas2 LOL and agree, but how many people are there at the top of the oil industry that have boats or yachts. Location: USA Hypothesis I assessing the market for troller type efficient boats, we're looking more toward the hard working family who wants to cruise and save their bucks while doing so. Most of the high cost today is "luxuries, fridge , freezer , air cond and a huge variety of electric gadgets that hope to relieve the crew from needing to learn to navigate.
ANY motorboat that is truly designed as a displacement cruiser will go about the same speed , on the same fuel. Location: Holland Efficient multi chine motor yacht A popular Dutch boating magazine (Waterkampioen) organised a contest in 1999 for an economical, easy to build motor cruiser. I'm not so fond of the superstructure but the hull has proved to be very efficient at low speeds. Originally Posted by Greenseas2 [b], what I'm looking for is a good double endeed design that would be affordable to those who want to cruise under power.
Location: USA Getting close The boat is getting close to what I think would be ideal. She's is a custom Banjer, named DE WIDJE BLIK, owned by a member of the Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club, who worked at the Eista Werf boatyard.
Taking the opportunity, I enclose an image (not very good) of a motor Banjer from the drawing table of Dick Lefeber, Banjer series (And many others) designer. It was in the 60s and 70s, when Dick Lefeber worked for ?Eista Werf?, that he really won his spurs by designing the popular Doerak and Marak models.
Greanseas - the only real advantage that I can see to having a canoe stern is to 'spilt' overtaking waves whilst in a running sea. For as far as i understood (despite the name) the scope of this thread was to find a boat that is inexpensive to build, maintain and power.
Perhaps we can restart the discussion in a "affordable, low fuel consumption, good looking motor cruiser thread? Go and circumnavigate and take a look at the fuel costs, on the other hand I know a guy that crossed the Atlantic with less than 30 gallons, or a guy that has made it from the US to Australia with 10 gallons (mostly for the batteries) and fast too. I figured the GB would take about 75 hp so even though the real life difference was less than I thought a bit over 2 times as much is not fly stuff. You may want to search this area as they seem to be readily available and would probably be priced reasonably. Designed for Ribs, Alloys and Glass dinghy's, the trailer can support a variety of boats within a specified range.
I do like the canoe stern design as we do, all too often, run relatively rough inlets like Manasquan in New Jersey. I drive a Roberts Waverunner displacement 40, steel, weighs in around 16 tonnes with 1800litres of fuel and water. And I have not talked about long range, only cruising costs, maintenance and price of the boat. Hanson designs In studying hanson troller designs further, the underwater hull design is quite close to being that of efficent sailing vessels. Clean hull, calm seas, full load) at 1300 rpm of the mentioned engine, the prop absorbing something like 14 HP of the 39 HP (DIN) available from engine at that rpm (These last two data estimated, as power-rpm curves are not available).
With a 900 lts tank, allowing for a non-usable 10%, range goes to 748 miles, if I worked out numbers correctly.
The hull flares at the strn above the waterline for extra work deck space and to handle following seas.
We had a couple of nasty days west of the Golden Gate with at least 5 foot seas and both trollers handled them well abeam, and from both both both ends.
The yachts easy construction (outside frame method) make it possible for a not so experienced builder to build one. I'll check it out Fred, while sail is a good source of powering a boat, what I'm looking for is a good double endeed design that would be affordable to those who want to cruise under power. It appears that it might be a motorsailer wait for mast and rigging, but a beautiful boat in any case. The boat was outstanding and in extraordinary good condition when I visited her in 2001, when the Banjers Gathering that year. Well, for many years now they have lost their sails (and also their rational side ? they have now huge motors) but they are still beautiful seaworthy boats.
Many times I've seen the results of studies that show that a full displacement power boat is indeed less costly to buy and own. But as always there are other aspects to consider - a canoe stern for instance will generally mean the loss of a boarding platform and a considerable loss of cockpit space. This means we should be looking for a boat of light displacement, easy in construction with use of conventional materials to keep costs down.
When I bought my last boat I put too much emphasis on fuel burn and now am wishing I had a boat that burned twice as much. Perhaps there's something about the bulbus bow that makes it WLL wise butter than just making the whole bow as long as the bulb??? Nothing like comming abourd on a cold winters morning for some bacon & eggs and a hot cup of coffeee cooked on the wood stove in the galley. The COMPAK transforms by simply altering the length of the draw bar and rear roller to the required length. Almost all inlets on the east coast of the US have inlet channels on the ICW in the shape of a V where the base of the V is near the mouth of the inlet. Power is a Cummins 6B naturally aspirated, set up for 115 continuous HP at 2500rpm but governed back to 2050rpm since it was obviously overpowered at 2500.


His illustraztion of the 30 foot troller is a good example of an efficient hull design for economical long range cruising. We use seawater ballast on ships that I've run to maintain an acceptable CG, but usually only top them off for storm conditions. I bought a new 9.9hp Yamaha four stroke outboard extra long shaft high thrust at that time also. However we noticed locally that deck parties at the dock on the big guys has become the norm as has a 1 hour cruise to a local water front restaurant where they hog all of the dock space in order to be able to strut their stuff and look down from the hundred story fly bridge on us peons eating sea food (uncatered of course). Stadt have lots of experience in wood epoxy design so think they could develop drawings for this type of construction.
For one thing, seniors don't like the idea of having to go on deck at night or in heavy seas and prefer the comfort and security of a pilothouse. This basically comes down to the cost of the rigging and the structure required to support it. The last two examples are beautiful but sort of heavy in displacement and complex in construction. I know Edwin Monk designed some but his plans are no longer available according to Mr Monk Jr in Bainbridge WA. This means that a boat will be getting stern seas going either north bound or south bound.
These types of boats are also very stable when going to the fishing griounds light ship except for ice.
Installation of the motor in the well required opening the hole in the hull up larger to allow the motor to turn lock to lock as well as cutting the deck over the motor out for greater access.
While the trollers are slightly deep in the hull, they don't appear to be deep enough so that waves "catch the bottom, but rather they either ride the surface opf plow through. I have followed Tad's opinion, both here and at his site and have agreed with all he has posted, so I shall refrain from further comment.
Then on the other hand, I've seen great little boats pass the megas where everyone on the mega rushes over to the side to see the little guy with more than a little envy in their eyes.
Few would consider building a sailboat without and engine, so there is little or no saving there. I suspect significant savings would be available at 7K but haven't measured consumption at this speed. But the combination of the Banjer hull with a slow turning fuel efficient engine would be a winner for sure. An extra 300 gallons (2,100 pounds) will only put the average troller down about an inch on the water line.
One ton for a 40 footer (If that's what we are talking about), down in the bilges, may have a significant influence in stability. I then built a motor cover, small cabin, stout handrails, front hatch, and anchor pulpit from marine aluminum. The idea of the thread is to come up with a nice small troller that is economically operated. If the boat has a critical GZ curve, the consumption of that one ton may lead to a dangerous situation.
The only noticeable difference between production trawlers and salmon trollers is that there is about 2 feet less internal space for accommodations.
The second part of the desired equation is for the boat to also be operated with inexpensive biodiesel.
And of course the cost of maintenance for a sailboat is often higher - not simply as a result of having to replace sails etc, but often because (many) sailboat owners tend to neglect the ongoing maintenance of their powerplants. I'm looking at a big old fish boat conversion now and am a bit scared of the wood ship construction. I've seen this happening in many fishing boats, particularly for the 10% fuel-20%catch load condition. I've looked at George Buhlers designs and they are very nice but I was hoping I could find a source for the plans from a historical source.
The Clarem, as I found her this fall at Edna Bay on the outer coast of Prince of Wales Island. I'm also looking at a Nordic 32 and I'm sure you'd say go w the Nordy but with my eye on the big old serious fish boat I may better be better able to see what the Nordy really is.
I took the deck off the boat, did a lot of epoxy glass work to the interior, and refastened the deck with closely spaced stainless bolts and nylok nuts. Everything mounted is through bolted with stainless and nykoks with oversized aluminum backing plates.
Also the wood fish boat I'm looking at is very much like the 40' troller by Frank Fredette. I used over 11 gallons of System Three epoxy (some West system) and many many yards of 12 & 6 ounce glass cloth.
The two sides of the motor well cover each have half a slot which come together (with a rubber cushions) on the raised motor shaft and are locked to prevent motor theft. I built a bench over the footwell area to limit the volume of water that can board which needs to run out and greatly increased the scupper sizes.
She turns ahull when drifting and travels very slowly with as much boat as is in the water and her low windage profile.
I made a toilet which uses trash bags and the cabin will sleep four ( bow double and two quarter berths.
I've been in eight foot breaking choppy seas and have yet to take anything but blown spray aboard. With the door closed she will roll over and come right back up ( don't want to test that) and will not retain any water on baord for more than a few seconds.



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