A…r 1625 var det trettioA?riga kriget i Europa inne pA? sitt sjunde A?r, och Sverige hade dessutom varit i krig med Polen i hela 25 A?r. Vasa var ett sA? kallat regalskepp vilket innebar att det var det stA¶rsta av A¶rlogsflottans skepp och utrustad med 64 bronskanoner.
1658 fick den svenska A¶versten Albrecht von Treileben tillstA?nd att bA¤rga Vasas kanoner. My brother, his long-time friend and I have been researching a train ferry, the SOLANO (1879-1930) for over 15 years. I didn't think much more about our friend's comment till the other week when a review of his comment prompted me to do a little Web research to compare these two vessels. Some folks may define a wooden ship as one with all-wood framing, hull and decks, other definitions differ. In a purist's eye, the only completely and totally wooden boat would be the old dugout log - no metal, paint, cordage or other non-wooden components. Tonnage is a better measure than length though, some long boats are thin and actually rather small. The Romans during the rein of Caligula built a pair of massive boats on Lake Nemi that were intended to be used as pleasure palaces.
As one of you had noted, the early SOLANO was rated at 3459 gross tons, yet her sister ferry CONTRA COSTA, nearly identical in size and overall configuration, was 5373 gross tons.
I have an unconfirmed rating for the SOLANO at 5455 gross tons and right now I believe that to be closer to her real gross tonnage since it closely matches her sister ferry's tonnage. Recently on PBS I saw a documentary about this vessel and they interviewed people still alive that remember using that ferry daily. The type of ship construction the WYOMING represents might have indeed reached it's limits.
Designed by a railroad, the SOLANO was built more like a series of upside-down side-by-side open truss bridges. SOLANO's biggest challenge was withstanding constantly shifting load weights as heavier and heavier rail equipment traversed her decks. My feeling is that even though the WYOMING's design had possibly reached a size limit, the SOLANO's design did not.
Yes, Huell Howser flew us out to California to do a California's Gold segment on the SOLANO.
I have sailed in that area for many years and have approached the wreck closely (and carefully) so am familiar with it and was certainly surprised to see it on the TV.
I was down in the very splendid library of the Society for Roman Studies, looking for a book and happened by chance to notice a title Rome and China.
This led me to pick up once again another book comparing Rome and China which I had been sent for review entitled Why the West Rules — For Now by Ian Morris — Profile Books ?25. Generally speaking, he argues that throughout prehistory and down to the Roman period, the West was ahead of China by between 1500 and 2000 years. This analysis is of course a big shock to the Chinese who like to believe they were ahead in everything. The lead was kept throughout the Roman period, though the Chinese equivalent the Han Dynasty was not far behind.


Indeed those who like to compare Islam with the West, might like to note that the biggest Islamic cities were around AD 1200 when both Bagdad and Cairo reached 250,000 inhabitants — the same size as Constantinople at the same time, though both were dwarfed by Hangzhou in China with 800,000 inhabitants. The big question is of course is why did the Chinese retain their superiority for so long, and why did they then lose it and why did the West go ahead?
But the biggest aspect was surely their bureaucracy, and the invention of competitive examinations for entrance to that bureaucracy which ensured that although China was constantly being invaded by wild invaders from the deserts to the north and west, nevertheless the concept of a single unified Chinese Empire always survived, and there is always a steady supply of well-educated and clever bureaucrats. Meanwhile in the West,  smaller but tougher ships were sailing across the Atlantic and eventually around the world. I think that the author’s guess as to why the Chinese reigned superior for so long whereas the Romans faltered is correct.
Ship historyThe Vasa 1626-28 was the largest ship ever built in Sweden at that time, she weighed in at approximately 1,400 tons and carried 64 guns.
HMS Bounty kit contains precision laser cut wooden parts, cannons and swivel guns, variety of exotic woods for construction, elaborate fittings set, 12 sizes of rigging line, cargo for inside of ship, and sail material. FA¶r att Sverige A¤ven skulle kunna delta i det trettioA?riga kriget behA¶vdes en stark flotta.
Viceamiral Klas Fleming (36) hade utrustat skeppet och utfA¶rt en del prover, bland annat hade han testat fartygets stabilitet.
FA¶rst bogserades hon mA¶dosamt utmed Skeppsbron till Tranbodarna strax A¶ster om nuvarande Slussen.
To get WoodenBoat delivered to your door or computer, mobile device of choice, etc, click WB Subscriptions. I should mention that the SOLANO was later joined by her sister ferry, the CONTRA COSTA, in 1914 and that the CONTRA was 11 feet longer.
Being new to this forum, I was not able to successfully link a Solano vs Wyoming slide to my first post, so let's try this. What surprised me though is that the SOLANO is apparently not on anybody's list as "the largest", yet it looks as if it is giving the WYOMING and perhaps other possible contenders quite a run, don't you think? The Italians drained that lake and were studying one of the vessels but the Nazis burned the remains when they were forced to retreat. A bit larger and the strength of the wood is not great enough to maintain the integrity of the structure. Some quick Web research had uncovered some comments that the WYOMING would bend under load and her hull boards would separate, causing water to come in.
Unlike the WYOMING, the SOLANO's load was pretty much topside so the inside hull could have all sorts of structural obstructions (she had 13 water tight compartments, for instance). At her height she averaged a new load every half hour 24 hours a day till her sister ferry, the CONTRA COSTA, could come online. With some beefing-up here and there she handled well and worked hard for 51 years despite heavier loads on her deck. The West springs into the lead with Catal Huyuk with 1,000 inhabitants in 7,500 BC and 3,000 by 6,000 BC (when in Stanford, always support your fellow professors). I am attracted by the argument — not used by Ian Morris — that the reason why the West went ahead lay in the fact that there were a number of competing states, which because they were competing with each other encouraged the concept of free thought and enterprise and this was the foundation of the Industrial Revolution.
Kit also comes with a 29 page pictorial instruction book, instructions, and a full set of plans.


A few months ago we received an email from a Brit who happened to be interested in our HO scale model of the SOLANO. That is one of the reasons that it is hard to believe that the Chinese built something much larger. And that makes me wonder if other huge wooden ships, such as Noah's Ark and that Ming ship, might have been at least structurally possible. The video is not very in-depth, but that's okay since all we wanted to do was let people know this vessel existed. Similarly because of geographical factors, although the West rules for now, we are going to be overtaken by the East.
Ett var att man skulle frysa in hela skeppet i ett stort isblock som sedan skulle flyta upp. Within his email he casually mentioned that the SOLANO was almost as large as the WYOMING, a six-masted schooner commonly cited as "the world's largest wooden ship"!
My guess is that there were other ships, such as the GREAT REPUBLIC, that might arguably surpass the WYOMING.
They are high quality acrylic based paints that can be thinned with water, thinner or alcohol. Ett annat var att fylla hela skrovet med pingpongbollar och att hon pA? sA? vis skulle flyta upp till ytan.
Our friend went on to say that the WYOMING's 450' length wasn't all that much larger than the SOLANO's 424' length.
The SOLANO was built to navigate one mile of flat water with 10 knot bi-directional currents.
The Vasa was built at the Stockholm shipyard by Henrik Hybertsson - an experienced Dutch shipbuilder.
The colors contained in each paint set are based on the colors shown in the picture of the model. His experience was much needed as the Vasa was to be the mightiest warship in the world, armed with 64 guns on two gun decks.
The maiden voyage was to be an act of propaganda for the ambitious Swedish king Gustavus Adolphus.
Söfring Hansson and many others were called to inquiries at the Royal Castle of Stockholm. At the inquest people were troubled by the fact that the shipbuilder Henrik Hybertsson had died the year before the Vasa was completed. Instead his brother and partner, Arendt de Groot, was held responsible for the completion of the ship.
The people in charge of the inquiries concluded that the ship was well built - but badly proportioned. One of the most popular attractions in Sweden since her recovery, Wasa is the centrepiece of the Statens Sjohistoriska Museum on the Stockholm waterfront.



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