Originally Posted by ancient kayaker Oops, that could make another thing for our busy crew to worry about, but hopefully it won't need continual changes.
Its also imperative that a small DSS equiped boat have some form of movable ballast-in my opinion. And if it all comes together it should be the hottest little sit-in monohull sailboat around anywhere! Location: Eustis, FL Many years ago I rode one of these things and they are quite responsive, but the preformance isn't as good as it feels like it is. The novelty of scooting along, in a literal pocket yacht is quaint, but no cooler of beer room, limits my interest as not practical enough to consider. Originally Posted by PAR Many years ago I rode one of these things and they are quite responsive, but the preformance isn't as good as it feels like it is.
This thread has pretty much devolved into a blue sky discussion about something else completely (high performance maximum expense experimental tiny boats perhaps), than improving the design of the Minuet. In answer to the thread topic, I doubt the design of the Minuet can be improved dramatically while remaining a Minuet. Personally, I place no value on rep points as forum reputation is meaningless when it come to accurately measuring knowledge, experience, professional accreditation and work product. If I were re-rigging a keel boat, especially if I was trying to re-use existing parts I'd place enormous value on Paul B's thoughts - and he's currently got negative rep points for the crime of calling things as he sees them without sugar coating or consideration for Miss Manner's behaviour. I was privileged to grow up surrounded by snarly, impatient, frighteningly knowledgeable curmudgeons - and quickly learned to filter out personal nonsense from the priceless knowledge.
Getting back on topic, I really had hoped for a discussion about the Minuet displacement design. Location: Florida I've watched the Minuet video and am quite tempted to try to put something quick together as a proof of concept.

My thought is to use a vertical plywood frame on centerline running from bow to stern and a bulkhead to support the mast, shrouds, daggerboard and rudder. 2) I want the crew to provide the lion's share of the ballast so they will sit as much as possible below the waterline.
I'd love to hear suggestions on length, beam, rocker, hull shape etc to provide the best ability to carry sail. My most successful Footy's were plumb stem, plumb stern double enders with little rocker forward and more aft. I'm almost completely ignorant on hull design so having a submerged stern may have been a huge mistake. Perhaps it can be adjusted for conditions on the day and left, or possibly it may merely need a one time adjustment to suit an individual hull and rig. I've also come to believe that for a little sit-in boat having the DSS foils plugged in is the way to go-fixed but removable for stowage(DSS-F). And, finally, I've become convinced that for all this to work well in a sit-in boat the length has to be 14' or over. The rest of the hull structure would be from blue or pink foam, the deck likely from thin ply. Also these boats had long keels with lots of lead on the bottom so the section could be completely wrong for the new project, which I hope to have little lead in. I think it should be adjustable; getting it right first time in the design and a first-time build is asking a lot . A 4 cylinder engine of 80 HP and sitting very low, the sensation of speed is artificially increased. It's not hard to have a small boat with sparkling preformance, room for the wife and a cooler full of beer too.

At that length the numbers add up and using things like fixed DSS and the sliding ballast wing(for experimental purposes) the power to carry sail is greatly enhanced. He was a guy whose real name I can't remember who was interested in building a fullsize(not rc) improved version of the Minuet. Once along side a real sports car, you suddenly realize how under powered you actually are. You will not be able to stuff it in the back of your station wagon, but a 200 pound boat doesn't need much of a trailer nor much of a car to haul it.
He's had more points than you Cut, but not having common sensibilities, lost literally of of them. I talked to a friend about it and we agreed that improvement would result from a drier boat, a boat capable of handling waves and heavier conditions, a boat that would be faster on all points of sail, a boat with a spinnaker and a boat still small enough to be easily handled singlehanded even with the performance enhancing features we both liked -the asy spin, DSS, A-Class Cat wing mast section and movable ballast. There's no doubt of his expertise, but it's worthless if it can't be conveyed without the troubles he typically finds himself in. We agreed that we wanted a boat that would plane without the crew having to move athwartship. I envision a simple spar (windsurfer mast or even smaller) and small low stretch lines for stays. Richard has (had) a completely different story and one I fully understand and commiserate with. The boat would use a sliding movable ballast system, DSS-F(fixed,removable) foils, gybing daggerboard and Dotan kick-up rudder.

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