Personally I vastly prefer centerboards, daggerboards or leeboards to the small fixed keel that the Weekender uses -- but haven't sailed either the Hartley or Weekend so can't speak to the comparison. I find the internal Wooden Boat Forum search engine to be pretty limited, as it doesn't seem to allow Boolean searches.
Paul, I was going to build the Vacationer and decided against it in favor of a real sail boat approximately the same size and has the ability to be trailered and stored in a garage.
As you see the keel is very conventional, mine will have a slightly shallower keel (shoal keel) approx. The way I understand it - that's not really the boat you're building, but a somewhat similar, previous design? I've never seen any of the Hartley Trailer Sailers, but from the reputation and from looking at the drawings, they seem to be a much more serious boat.
When I started to question the design of the boat and possible modifications that some had felt the need to make on the Vacationeer, I just decided to not even bother and to get a real set of plans and build a boat the way I am use to and that is bead and cove strips and epoxy and fiberglass. Hartleys though are proper sailing dinghies (and bigger,) with a different design philosophy. By the way, I knew an adult couple who cruised in a TS14 -- there was just room in the cabin for a berth down each side, and cooking (and just about everything else) was done in the cockpit under an awning. Here is a link to Talking Points TS16 Association of SA which contains an article on building a TS16.
I hope that I can be of some help to you, I have built and currently own a weekender that I have removed the cabin because the cotpit was to small and made it an open boat. And I should have added, Paul, that if your home waters will be the lakes here, a Stevenson should be fine. Thanks Again for all your valuable help I think all things concidered, as I'm not planning a build at this stage & I do plan to go to the salt water ocasionally that I'll start looking for a Hartley.


Plans that have been purchased but NOT built can be resold (but shouldn't be for more than was paid for them) or given away without guilt. Hi Steve thanks for the conscience prod I was wondering who was watching.maybe Bagneaux(how the christ do you pronounce that?,is it like Bordeaux with a bag lol ?)can send Stevensons the money with an explaination.Are you a weekender builder as well? About the Out Islands An Out Islands vacation is the real Bahamas experience, full of natural wonders, wildlife, seemingly endless beaches, and a variety of uniquely Bahamian resorts and boutique hotels. The apartments all look out to the beach, and across the sea in the distance, Laughing Bird Cay. The Laughing Bird Apartments are located just across a quiet road from the ocean in Governors Harbour, Eleuthera. I first went to the island of Eleuthera following the painting trail of the great American painter Winslow Homer. Hurricane Joaquin left a few of the southernmost Out Islands with some damage but we’re happy to report that the majority of the Out Islands escaped the storm winds and are welcoming guests. To get WoodenBoat delivered to your door or computer, mobile device of choice, etc, click WB Subscriptions. I personally would have nothing to do with a Weekender and consider the Hartley boats to be vastly superior. I'm not saying you'd want to take a TS14 from Melbourne to Launceston necessarily, but if you tried you'd have a reasonable chance of getting there. I shouldn't say that they aren't capsizeable because anything is ultimately, but you'd have a hard time doing so in weather that you'd be sailing in for pleasure.
I found places that mentioned the story but nothing that contained the name of the boat or the crew. Each set of plans is a licence to build (1) one boat unless otherwise stated by the designer.


Set in an acre of tropical gardens along the beach, it offers endless travel options to the vacationer, being near the water, yet only minutes away from the stores and downtown of historic Governor's Harbour. Each cottage at the resort comprises one efficiency apartment and a one-bedroom apartment, complete with the conveniences of home, and accommodating a range of travel plans. Join us in wishing the resorts on San Salvador, Crooked Island, Acklins Island and Long Island a speedy, stress-free recovery. I have a mate who has one, and he still uses his a fair bit, but it seems that most folks grow out of them pretty quickly. But It's a great day outside today pitty its mainenance time, painted the mast yesterday with kill rust epoxy paint. I suppose they look 'salty' enough with their faux clipper bows and all, and I know a couple of Forumites have them and love them.
In a Vacationer or a Weekender there's a very good chance you wouldn't even get through the Rip, never mind across Bass Strait.
Building a boat and then selling or even giving away the plans so that another boat can be made is considered morally wrong and tatamount to theft. But they're essentially skiffs-with-lids, and they rely entirely on their initial stability to stop them capsizing -- if you tip them too far you're upside-down with no way that I know of righting them. Also, on Mike's comment re sailing to Launceston, I have bumped into people in very far flung places cruising on TS16's twice, one couple up in Indonesia somewhere (who had supposedly sailed it from Darwin??) and a French guy over in Turkey who had been living on his for over a year when I saw him in Kos. The only way a plan should be shared is if the design is offered free ( and so stated by the designer) but it should still be credited as his or her design.



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