In an effort to resolve "long-standing interpretive ambiguity in key Bible passages regarding homosexuality" a new version of the classic King James Bible -- this one titled The Queen James Bible -- claims to be the first ever gay friendly Bible to correctly translate the Christian scriptures. The website explains that "homosexuality was first overtly mentioned in the Bible in 1946 in the Revised Standard Version. Numerous historians point to his rocky marriage with Mary Todd Lincoln as well as the fact that he very close relationships with several men, including Joshua Speed, who shared his bed for four years. Has it ever occurred to you that not everything you think is true?I hope you will be kind enough to yourself to do additional study instead of assuming, without any facts to support your assumption, that what you believe the Bible says about homosexuality is true.The Romans 1 passage you referenced, in context, has absolutely nothing to do with two men or two women falling in love and serving God together.What is the meaning of Romans 1?
I understand where everyone is coming from, however this world doesn't understand what God really is. God loves everyone and no one in this world should judge anyone, those who do judge are the sinners and let god forgive you and bless you if we gay people are sinners only god can judge us on judgment day!
Which part of the scripture shows that God is talking about prostitutes?Rick's comment: That information is on this page, with many links to additional information. I came across your site like a week ago and I have been trobled in mty mind and spirit because I became uncertain as to if what you say is true or what I have heard all my life is the right thing. I came to this website looking for answers to help counsel a young lady who loves God and wants to do the right thing.
I've read all the scriptures over and over and yet still come to the same conclusion that it's wrong to be involved in a same sex relationship.
I know God loves all of His children and my bestie is a lesbian and I've always supported No H8! I am a christan and go to an arts school and there are Plenty of openly Gay rather flamboyant people. I have been born and raised under a pew, and my whole life I thought I would grow up and get married and have kids, and do the Christian side of normal. Whether or not your gay or straight it doesn't matter God does say that one should not lay with a man in Romans. What the NIV refers to in 1 Cor 6:9 supposedly as "homosexual offenders" and later in 1 Tim.
The question we should ask is does gay relationship go against the word of ?Rick's comment: Isn't that what many of our low information commenters do? Confused how two groups of church-goers can have such conflicting views about whether it's OK to be gay?
Both sides of the debate about homosexuality in the church, which threatens to split the worldwide Anglican church, hold their views sincerely and after much study. An illustration of the division can be seen by what either side might say about the friendship in the Old Testament between David and Jonathan. PRO-GAY A pro-gay position might be that this is a clear indication that King David had a gay relationship, and to pretend otherwise is naive. ANTI-GAY An anti-gay opinion might be that the friendship between the two men was exactly that - a very close and loyal allegiance. ANTI-GAY An anti-gay argument might say this story demonstrates the immorality of homosexuality, as has been accepted for generations, hence the term sodomy.
PRO-GAY Of course the men's behaviour was wicked, but it was wicked because it's a tale of sexual assault and rape. There are several verses in the Bible which are similarly contested - there are however a much smaller number of seemingly clear statements.
PRO-GAYA pro-gay argument might say that other verses in the same book forbid a wide range of sexual activities, including having sex with a woman who is having her period.
Later in the same conversation, after Jesus has spoken about divorce, the disciples say to him it is better not to marry at all.
PRO-GAY This shows that Jesus is more concerned with people looking after their own relationship with God, than with enforcement of rules.
ANTI-GAYJesus here is actually talking about people who were born incapable of having children, or people who were castrated - not about gays. The letters of St Paul provide the other traditional support for the position that homosexuality is sinful. ANTI-GAYAnti-gay argument might say this line is crystal clear in establishing that Christianity and homosexuality are incompatible.
Part of the reason the views diverge so much is because Christians think of the Bible differently.
I'm leery of drawing any conclusion about the meaning of arsenokoitai in the NT based on the absence of such word in the Plato.
If I want the Bible interpreted, I'll call a true, Bible scholar who has no ulterior motives, or I'll just rely on my own upbringing and religious beliefs. The Bible makes very few mentions of homosexuality - lesbianism isn't mentioned at all in the Old TestamentThe author begins to lose me here.
Now I can clearly see from the quotations here that their platform rests on some pretty flimsy boards.
Another fact that people quoting the verses from II Samuel regarding David and Jonathan's relationship fail to point out is that David had 300 wives and 700 concubines. By not speaking out against these perverts and their sick agenda for Americans and their children you are a sycophant. But you're correct in stating that the pro-homosexual position has very flimsy support when trying to use scripture. Most pro-homosexual activists don't seem Biblically-literate enough to know that the cleanliness laws were thrown out in the New Testament.
And the penalty, in the Bible, for eating shrimp is??The elders of the tribe make you turn gay. He said the same about eating shrimpEating shrimp in the desert before refrigeration was a very poor idea. It also says, by the way, that deviating from the plan is abominable-but in this context, it's not the characterization of the deviation that is important, but the fact that is not part of the Creator's design.As Darwin noted, natural selection is redundant to the notion of God being alive and well in the world. In his 2007 documentary For the Bible Tells Me So, Daniel Karslake examines some of the different ways Christians and Jews interpret the Bible’s statements on homosexuality. For the Bible does not attempt to be an even-handed examination of the question of what the Bible says about homosexuality, but it does make a reasoned presentation of the arguments against literal interpretation of certain Biblical passages which have been used to justify condemnation of homosexual behavior.
As is often the case with Biblical interpretation, with this issue it seems that the less you know, the more likely it is to believe that you both know it all and that you know what it all means. Given that homosexuality is a topic which often polarizes people, it’s unfortunate that For the Bible doesn’t include discussion among theologians who hold opposing points of view. It’s been my observation that people’s opinions on sexual matters are often formed not by moral reasoning but by what psychologist Steven Pinker calls “moral rationalization:” that they react to a situation or issue emotionally, then seek to find a moral basis to justify their reaction. A different view of how literalist interpretation of the Bible can affect people is provided by the profiles of five Christian families which include a gay or lesbian individual.
He has a memoir on faith, family and parenting called PREGMANCY: A Dad, a Little Dude and a Due Date, and Hachette published his first hardcover book, "postChristian: What's left?
There is no mention of or reference to homosexuality in any Bible prior to this -- only interpretations have been made." The new edits are only "for interpretive clarity. Moo, Wessner Chair of Biblical Studies at Wheaton College and a professional Bible translator, told The Christian Post. Getting saved is about repenting of our sins and trusting Jesus Christ alone for salvation.
Cowards like you who rip verses out of context to condemn AND do not have the courage to put your name with your hateful Comments are just too funny.
Everyone knows right from wrong, but it don't gives us the right to judge no one that's gods part.
Genesis 2:18 tells us that God looked upon Adam before he fell into sin, before sin entered the world. I am cool with gay people but I don't understand why we label people as gay because of a feeling or attraction or who you have sex with. If homosexuality is a sin and sins send us to Hell -- then Heaven will surely be empty considering everyone has sinned in their lives and will continue to do so no matter how many times they repent. God made you in HIS image if he made you that way it means that all lives have purpose to serve THEIR own purpose what you say and do cannot change how they feel or what they want.
And yet, when we answer them with scripture in context and rightly divided, 2 Timothy 2:15, they ignore our answers. When Jesus mentions Sodom, hundreds of years later, it appears to be in a context of a discussion of hospitality, rather than one of sexual morality. This is an indication that the passage embodies specific cultural values rather than God's law. There are though two statements by him which have been interpreted as having a bearing on the subject. Some see it as literally the word of God, divine inspiration which humans should not question. For one thing, the classical Greek of the Platonic dialogues and the Koine of the NT are separated by four centuries.
Society has already given the fornicators and adulterers a pass in previous generations and homos are the last bastion we have to fight in this generation.
You should know better than that if you're familiar with the God-given tenet of free will.By not speaking out against these perverts and their sick agenda for Americans and their children you are a sycophant. Do they think if they twist the meanings of Bible verses pertaining to homosexuality enough, that everyone will say it's ok? I defy any claim that a man intimately surrounded by 1,000 women had a homosexual tendency of any kind. I'm very much thinking I'll have to read it during a more awake time, as, even from the very start, it really makes one think.
I usually read Bible in the morning (before work) and try to do extra studies in the evening hours. Since girls didn't attend school, the academic elites tended to lionize the young, educated men.
They can't have a parade without turning it into a pervert party and they infest our public parks and restrooms. Just by laying things out as pro and con and in the end talking about how hard and tricky it is to decide when different people interpret the same thing in two different ways, the author has already accorded the pro-homosexual side a great deal of legitimacy in this matter that it has never had. On the one hand, it has to beg the question to make what it calls pro-homosexual verses support its position and, on the other, it has to explain away clear, unambiguous language that undercuts it or engage in fallacies such as the shrimp equivalency ploy alluded to above ("G-d abominates the eating of shrimp. What most folks get wrong is that natural selection does not, per se, control the way man lives, though it is not entirely irrelevant. Its obvious some of these arguments have found favor among many Bible-savy Christians who should know better. The film has two principal components: one follows the stories of five Christian families which include a gay or lesbian member, while the other presents interpretations of Bible passages relating to homosexuality and other sexual practices from a variety of individuals. Maybe not, if you are one of the Biblical scholars interviewed in this film, who interpet the passage in context and with particular attention to the specific words used in the original Hebrew text. For the Bible seems largely to have been created for the purpose of countering this tendency by presenting information and reasoned opinions about how the Bible regards homosexuality, albeit primarily from one side of the discussion.
It’s not really fair to pit an archival clip of Jerry Falwell making homophobic remarks against reasoned statements from numerous scholars and theologians who believe that Falwell’s interpretation is wrong. If that is the case, then the arguments and interpretations presented in For the Bible will be useful in providing debating points to people who already agree with its point of view, but are unlikely to do much to change the mind of anyone who disagrees. Although this ground has been covered before, Karslake did find an interesting range of families who have different reactions to their children’s sexual orientation.
There is so much hatred and false teaching on the rest of the web already that I rarely allow goofy comments like yours to go live.


He is there with us everywhere we go, he can read our thoughts, he can mold our future's however God's love is unconditional. The biggest problem with Christians today is that they treat homosexuality as if it is a bigger sin than adultery, fornication, stealing, lying, etc. I did not come from a monkey either.Its not hate speach it is fact where to you think our laws came from thou shall not steal thou shall not murder, from our creator.
They rip verses out of context and insist the out of context verses apply to gays and lesbians when the verses in context definitely do NOT apply to gays and lesbians.Our job is to educate everyone we can so that young gays know the truth, that God loves them, Jesus died to save them from their sins AND they can be both gay and Christian disciples of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Where does it say that a male and another male can't be in a relationship because they are the same sex.
It's ashame to see most of you on here only focusing on homosexuality when you not sitting in the same boat like them. While I found some great information, I also found so much justification of the lifestyle by people that are Christians! Of this sinless man in an unfallen world, God said: "It is not good that the man should be alone. I haven't had any luck the truth is I have been more attracted to women and I worked hard to push it away, pray it away and beg God to take it away. Also if God is supposed to love everyone equally doesn't that mean he loves homosexuals just as much as heterosexuals.
The speaker of the words is God, so this is an explicit indication that homosexuality is wrong in God's eyes.
Others would say that Jesus set Christians free from the old laws, highlighting instead that people should love God and their neighbour. For while some are incapable of marriage because they were born so, or made so by men, there are others who have themselves renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of Heaven.
Again and again Jesus reaches out to those on the margins of society, like prostitutes and tax collectors, to include them. Jesus does appeal to the sinners, but once he has called them, he tells them to go and sin no more. You can't just pretend that St Paul, who did so much to influence our understanding of Jesus, didn't know what he was talking about. Others see it rather as a book which is a witness to God's message, but one which was written by humans and thus has flaws.
Compare, for example, the english of four centuries ago as found in the King James Version with the english of the NIV -- it should come as no surprise to anyone that the word arsenokoitai is not translated as homosexual in the KJV but is translated as homosexual in the NIV when one considers that the english word homosexual wasn't even coined until a little over a century ago! It would have been better for a single instance of submission by the father and his daughters than to condone or not oppose homosexuality, especially an attempt to corrupt messengers of God.
In previous generations it was just as taboo to have sex outside of marriage, or to cheat on your spouse but those days are no longer. Lot, in keeping obedient to God by faith, even offered up the flesh of his daughters whom he greatly loved, in order not to defile his relationship with God. They choose a handful of quotes out of a book that takes a year to read if you pace yourself conservatively. I'm very impressed, and it also makes me feel welcome as a Roman Catholic, even though I've decided to read The King James Version. I just don't understand why you care so much about what other people do in their private lives. Not to mention they want to destroy marriage as an institution and their promiscuity costs us hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars.
When something is stated clearly and in the right context, it need not be stated more often than that. This author is just some person writing for the BBC, the Episcopal church is about to fall apart over that horrid man, Robinson. Karslake includes statements from anti-gay Christian ministers and spokesmen such as Jimmy Swaggart and James Dobson of Focus on the Family, as well as from Biblical scholars and theologians who explain what they believe the Bible says about homosexual behavior and how those statements apply to the modern world. Laurence Keene explains that the Hebrew word translated as “abomination” in this passage refers to a ritual wrong, not a moral wrong, in the same sense that eating pork for a Jew is not innately immoral (like murder) but a violation of a ritual requirement.
I’m certainly not in Falwell’s camp myself, but is that point of view wholly without support from contemporary scholars? And by so obviously favoring one point of view this film leaves itself wide open to charges of bias, giving those who hold other views an easy route by which to condemn and ignore it. Is being a good person the way to get saved?Some people think that God sends all gays and lesbians to hell.
I do believe in God's laws, but we as humans were never able to fulfill God's laws because we are ALL sinners (all have fallen short). If one wants to stop being gay all one has to due is come to Jesus Chirst God come in the flesh Rick's comment: Dear heart, I am SO glad you got saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. If you KNOW being a lesbian is not right in God's eyes, then you must have a scriptural basis for knowing that. I will make him an help meet (fitting) for him."Rick, when God created a "partner" for Adam, he created Eve, not Steve.
Is it worse than our lying and disobedience EVERYONE commits everyday and if you think that your not one of those people (Like Westboro Baptist Church) You will probably be going to hell.
Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor theives, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. Gay people aren't condemned to hell rather it's do with whether you believe in Jesus, and I don't think becoming a Christian changes your sexual orientation, or that would have happened to me :P!
Another point worth noting is that there is evidence that some of the NT koine is itself a translation of another language. Lot's act was in a sense a foreshadowing of the love exhibited by Christ on the Cross, wherein Christ remained obedient to the Father even unto the separation of his body from his soul and spirit as a man, thereby offering the Perfect Sacrifice. Doesn't homosexual mean "Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex?" What is the author thinking here? Add study and you can increase that to 1-3 hours easily.There are many blatant misinterpretations of the Bible. I'm actually reading hubby's confirmation Bible, I must have at least 3 others, but that was the one I found first. In the case of gays, the process of society relaxing it's restrictions against it is, obviously, a method by which the body of society diminishes in itself periodically of the gay influence. The few places Paul speaks specifically to sexual sin, it's evident that the context warrants it (his overview of G-d's relationship to the world or sexual immorality in the Corinthian church, to mention two instances).
Steven Kindle of Clergy United points out that similar passages in Leviticus say it is an abomination to eat rabbit or shrimp. Perhaps, but I find it hard to believe that all religious faculty at American universities, for instance, are all in agreement on this point.
Representative from Missouri and unsuccessful Democratic candidate for president), and the Robinson Family (as in Gene Robinson, the first gay man to be consecrated as an Episcopal bishop). Is it true that I will go to hell because I am a lesbian and how can I know for sure?Actually God has a lot more grace toward gays and lesbians than some Christians give Him credit for. I am also happy in knowing that I can repent and I have repented and God has forgiven me so why can't you all do the same?Who gave christian the authority to judge and condemn? Thankfully and joyfully we have Jesus Christ who came to fulfill the law so that all who believe in Him shall not perish. Britain "Dark Ages" all people desired was money and wealth,the majority of people were all dedicated to God.How could monarchs or even the churches make money?
I am a Lesbian, in a relationship and I Love God, and Thank him everyday for his blessings and mercy. Jesus saves, I know that to be true, but I don't believe that the things that the bible says are sin, we should justify. I think being gay isn't who you are, it's how you feel and of course feelings can be wrong right. The scary part is I have this amazing best friend who I love dearly, and I tried to tell myself multiple times that I love her like a sister. Strangely enough, they don't apply that silly reasoning to their own lives and their own sins.I do not believe it is sin for two men or two women to be in committed relationship with each other. God made everyone equal with equal choices and since God created Homosexuality why would he not endorse it? For example, there's ample evidence to suggest that the koine found in the gospel of Matthew is a translation of an earlier semitic text.
While the standard for most of the Roman Empire did eschew gay relationships, the upper crust did indulge, but with time, such behaviour is an end to itself. 24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. Rabbi Brian Zachary Mayer notes that Leviticus also says you shouldn’t wear linen and wool together, or plant two crops in the same field. But there’s at least as much to be learned from the journeys of the African-American Poteat family, the Reitan family (who were arrested as they tried to deliver a letter to Jim Dobson at the Focus on the Family headquarters), and Mary Lou Wallner, who initially condemned her daughter Anna’s sexual preference but became a gay rights activist after Anna committed suicide (motivated, her mother believes, by the rejection she experienced because of church teachings about sexuality). God saves gay men and lesbians and leads some men to partner together and some lesbians to partner together, just like He saves heteros.If you're a gay Christian does God still love you? It is by God's spirit in us that we have our minds renewed and change to be more and more like Christ. I just want to know the exact passage as to where is states that being Homosexual is a Sin. I've have the urge to lie, cheat, steal, overeat, backbite, commit adultery, blaspheme God, be jealous and I could go on. Remember, the context of the verses must be a loving same sex relationship, not temple prostitutes and not temple prostitution. It's not a sin to feel attracted to the opposite sex, but I believe it's a sin to have a gay relationship. I believe your idea is wrong, that there are many more lesbians now and that's why you're having difficulty finding a wife. God loves everyone and with Jesus you wont go to hell but you can't really ignore a plain bible verse about gay sex either. How is that worse than any other sins we commit all sins are equal in God's eyes and if you repent he sends them as far as the East is from the West. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of our Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God."We know that Jesus loves sinners (which we all are) but He hates the sin. I also agree that Romans 1 and other bits like people committing sodomy in Genisis are quoted out of context. God is alive and well and active in the world, and yes, gays, while part of the plan, are not the essential part of the plan.
I can tollerate their activities in the privacy in the bedroom but I in no way have to accept it. Their point is obvious: when was the last time you saw a Christian minister get all worked up about people who like to eat shrimp or wear clothing made of two different fabrics, let alone assert that those who engage in such practices will burn forever in hellfire?
To have the blessing of God in your life requires an honest heart, honesty before God and with each other and a sincere desire to obey God. But by bashing this man and his beliefs you are just as bad as the sin you claim he is committing.
I believe that homosexuality is not God's plan or God's best for his people, but if any man believe in Jesus and sincerely accept him into your heart, HE (JESUS) will change you and make all things new. In the beginning God's plan was to populate the earth which is why he wanted man and a woman in that time period. God is a God of order and when he created us He gave us the model for what He wanted a family to be.


I encourage you to read and study before you condemn your gay brothers and lesbian sisters in Christ. Also, for those of you with judgmental and crucial comments, I wonder how God will forgive you for passing judgement, when in fact he is thee only one whom has the right to do such. Will you continue in ignorance or will you memorize and obey 2 Timothy 2:15 and start rightly dividing the word of truth?God knows your heart. Jacynda continues: And I also know it is not a easy thing at all, because my heart is telling me something else and they are both two strong parts of me. So carry on you Gays and Lesbians if you ever come to my church you have my full support!Rick's comment: Where are you getting the idea that "God does clearly state that gay sex is wrong?" Can you cite any verse of scripture which, in context, says that? A biblical scholar when a word is unknown, looks for similar greek words to find a possible meaning. In the city of San Francisco, GLBTs comprise about 12% of the population because many GLBTs from other places made a choice to move to beautiful San Francisco.I encourage you to do more reading and to get to know gays and lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered people. It's like me looking at a rapist and saying that's a heterosexual.But where I'm stuck is to say a gay relationship is ok.
Yes, we all faulter at times but you cannot call yourself a Christian and deliberatly ignore parts you don't want to obey.If you want to live in sin, that's your choice but pretending to be Christian at the same time is just rediculous. That is why God will save everyone who asks Him for salvation.The Links on this page provide helpful answers to your thoughtful question.
In any case no other person has the power to judge another person because their secret sins could be fare worst than being Gay.Rick's comment: Are Christians supposed to judge?
For a person to have desires and feelings for the opposite sex is not wrong but to act on it is sin.
I love the Lord with all my heart and I rather cry myself to sleep every night knowing that I am trying to be on the right page with God, than to fully give in to my sinful nature. Boswell concludes Paul writing in Koine Greek, took a word from Attic Greek combined with a word from Old Testament Greek to mean the active male prostitute. It will do your heart good and as you expand your intellectual horizons, you will become a Christian more in tune with the heart of God.
I pray for each one that has the desire to be a Christian but is so confused about their identity as to be what you call gay. Allow the Holy Spirit to light the way to greater and greater freedom from sin, and walk in love as we were commanded. God is looking down on all of us who call themselves Christians when you as Christians are the main one turning your back on His children's. May God bless you and guide you, ShawnRick's comment: Shawn, your ignorance of the Bible, combined with your arrogant belief that you are right, without ANY verse of scripture in context, to back up your belief, is typical of so many anti-gay Christians. Sometimes they are left in the field for a time, but ultimately they are all separated from the wheat. But regardless of it being taken out of context, by your logic- if a man or a woman never marry anyone, does that make them as sinful as a homosexual?
Perhaps he wanted us to reach him or perhaps god knows we cannot take the responsibility of being straight. Will you study and rightly divide the word of truth (which basically means interpreting scripture in context) or will you continue to push your opinion while refusing to study the Bible in context?
And I'll have a look at the context.And just to final off I think even if it was a sin to be in a same-sex relationship or marriage, those involved wouldn't go to hell if they had faith and thanksgiving. Truth is presented on this website, on the gay issue and you could read it if you wanted to. I have no reason to doubt I would feel the same way about these issues even if I were a stone-cold Atheist. I hope you will read these two pages and trust Jesus as your Savior from hell today.How to get saved.Jesus on hell - what did Jesus teach?
Homosexuality just like any other sin begins in the mind; there are images and voices that invade your mind before you commit the act. It is as sinful to keep doing something God never told you to do, under the mistaken assumption that your attempts please God, as it is to keep doing something God told you not to do.
I am coming to turn with the fact that I may actually be in love with my best friend and it tortures me because my family wouldnt understand. And my much beloved brother was a homosexual, who died of AIDS, so it's not in unfamiliarity that I form my conclusions. Many children and teens are already in our homes dealing with these thoughts and emotions but because of the way Christians are handling the issue of homosexuality they don't feel free to open up to their parents about it. Instead, thank God, I at some point recognized and repented of my sin and receive forgiveness daily because I still have urges in many of those areas and at times do succumb. My church wouldn't understand, I don't even know if my friends or she herself would understand. Remember "porneia" in the same verse that has been mistranslated fornication but was really female temple prostitutes?
There is nothing in the Bible which indicates that God requires gays and lesbians to be celibate and lonely for life.
Exodus International admits that 99.9% of their clients do NOT experience change in their sexual orientation or their same sex attractions.
Another thing that bothers me is that you are encouraging others who practice your lifestyle (the lifestyle you CHOOSE to live, not the lifestyle that chose you).
I love God dearly which is why I haven't wanted to accept this for myself so I don't like it when others are put down because of who they love and who makes them happy. I encourage you to do a lot more reading and study, starting with my website so that you can move beyond the internalized homophobia you're struggling with. Allan Chambers, President of Exodus, admits that even though he is heterosexually married, he still wrestles with same sex attraction.If change was possible, wouldn't gays who change and get heterosexually married, experience opposite sex attraction instead of same sex attraction? Homosexual Christians encouraging other homosexual Christians is no different than atheists encouraging other atheists. We have to ask the Holy spirit to guide us in his righteousness and not lean onto our own understanding. How many heterosexual men in your church - pastors, elders, deacons, Sunday School teachers - are going to hell based on 1 Cor 6:9 and based on what Jesus said, hmmmm? When you take verses out of context and live as if the out of context verse means something it did not mean in context, you embrace false beliefs. We all have salvation thru Jesus Christ available as a free gift IF we accept Jesus as our Savior from sin and from hell, there is still hope for all of us. The mistranslation owes in part to the already prevalent prejudice against gays present during preparation of this version of the Bible. Change doesn't happen for innate gays and lesbians because God does not intend for us to change. It also illustrates a common misconception which is held by many people even today, namely the stereotype that all gay men are "effeminate" or feminine in their actions or appearance. Don't you think that people who feel this way already know what rejection they are going to face? There is not a verse which says gay relationships are okay just as there is not a verse which says it's okay to drive a car. Furthermore, marriage is always defined between a man and a woman throughout Scripture, whether it’s with one woman or many women, nevertheless, it is always between male and female.
I will make him an help meet (fitting) for him."If it was not good for sinless Adam in an unfallen world to be alone, how much more is it NOT GOOD for gays and lesbians to be alone and celibate today? In the culture in which he wrote the word malakoi, those who engaged in homosexual acts were not considered to be of questionable manhood.
Instead, Paul coined a new word, arsenokoitai, which described temple prostitutes, not gay men and not lesbians. Even though we live in a broken world and divorce is rampant in some societies (not all), we shouldn’t throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater.
HE'S A FORGIVEN GOD and if i'm a lesbian who attend church and read the Bible then no man can tell me what God don't like cause i'm a lesbian. Ironically, Jesus addresses the issue of divorce in the context of a man leaving a woman, never a man leaving a man. The group possessed an incredible esprit de corps and could boast of many victories.Hope you enjoyed the history lesson. All you need is a few verses lost in translation and a population of people who are scared of what they don't understand and there you have the smoking gun. Please don't brand me as a bad person because I claim Jesus and the possibility of loving someone I only ever intended to be friends with. I am pretty sure a God who dines with prostitutes and forgives murders is not going to condemn anyone over homosexuality. But just because I may choose to hide my happiness forever doesn't mean those that don't should be put down with legalistic opinions. Physiologically, the human brain is developed in utero with a predisposition towards the opposite sex. Be kind to those that you don't understand because you don't know what they have been through.
Be strong in your love and know that I believe with all my heart Christ died for you like he died for the pastor and the ministers and he would do it again.
I’ve already had this debate many times with those in the pro-gay camp and easily send them to the Hebrew equivalent for the Greek equivalent Paul wrote about in 1 Corinthians. It says in the Bible "come as you are." again the bible didn't state get right with the church and then come, he wants us as we are. It’s almost to the point now that not believing in homosexuality being okay, somehow makes me a bigot or a hater. The ad sets up the scene where they are discussing the childs profession as it grows up, and becoming an astronaut is mentioned. Even the most liberal LGBT websites estimate that their are 9 million folks that desire to be listed in this group, covering all lines of different orientation to that of heterosexuality. If that is the case, then less than 3% of this countries’ population associates with one of the initials I typed above. I want to be able to live with these folks, and share Jesus with these folks, but I will never accept this lifestyle. The saddest part of it all, is that these folks make their sexual preference the most important part of their lives.
I feel its no different than any other misplaced physical desire, akin to taking drugs or gambling, or drinking alcohol. At some point we Christians as a group have to decide that we aren’t going to be told what is acceptable to us, and stand for what we believe. That doesn’t mean that we have to hate others, segregate ourselves or even be hurtful or mean, but we can stand on our moral, Christian principles. I respect their decision to choose, but I don’t force my sexual orientation on anyone, and I am sick and tired of the desire from this particular group to force me to agree with them.
I must admit to having spent time thinking about issues in Church and in other parts of life we use this argument especially in areas of public morals and public order.



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