I find it fascinating that all the marketing skills we have today were used by people thousands of years ago. At the simpler end of the market, products dona€™t need a brand a€“ they just need to work.
Religions, spiritual movements, political ideologies, self-help theories and therapies are all examples of services which can't succeed without effective branding. Having taken over story from early religion, the a€?majora€™ religions introduced a high-profile brand feature: the symbolic individual.
It has been recently recognised that when people make a buying decision, they are not really buying a product but what they believe it will do for them. Brands have to change to suit circumstance, but the strategy has to be properly thought through. Deliberate attempts at rebranding in order to reverse a perceived decline often dona€™t work or have unforeseen adverse effects. Only religion has succeeded in using the carrot-and-stick technique in which negative reinforcers such as guilt, fear and hatred work alongside positive reinforcers such as inclusion, security and reward.
From positive and negative reinforcement, the invention of the bad guy as antithesis of the mascot follows easily. The major religions use one tool that commercial products and services can't use: punishment for failing to buy or for ceasing to buy. Products are often rebranded to match changes in perception, in order to retain customer loyalty.
Subud's problem at present is that its brand is inauthentic, whereas the product itself is quite a good one. The success of a brand depends less on what it actually does than what it promises to do, though it should not mislead. The latihan exercise is practised two or three times a week for half an hour, either alone or in a group, where men and women do the exercise separately (in line with Muslim religious tradition). At 132lbs, Lu Hao is already five times the size of a normal child his age.The three-year-old toddler from China eats a staggering THREE bowls of rice when he sits down for a family meal.
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This group bound themselves by a vow of poverty and chastity, to "enter upon hospital and missionary work in Jerusalem, or to go without questioning wherever the pope might direct". They called themselves the Company of Jesus, and also Amigos En El Senor or "Friends in the Lord," because they felt "they were placed together by Christ." The name had echoes of the military (as in an infantry "company"), as well as of discipleship (the "companions" of Jesus). Morgellons Disease Awareness - Morgellons Disease: Tips for healing lesions, oral care and environment   Information for dealing with Morgellons lesions using topical aids as well as FAR infrared technology. They may have believed iron age superstitions but they could learn nothing from us about marketing because they knew the secrets of branding: the creation and projection into the market of a generic identity and buying incentive for a product or service thata€™s otherwise difficult to sell. No-one ever bothered to create a brand for spoons or wheelbarrows - but to market a vacuum cleaner, a car or a broadband provider, you need a brand.
Christianity makes full use of the two most powerful marketing words known to man: a€?newa€™ and a€?freea€™.
Logo, corporate identity, endorsements, free offers, unique selling proposition (USP) and perhaps most important of all: story.
Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha are the religious equivalent of brand mascots such as the Jolly Green Giant, the Pillsbury Dough Boy, Sunny Jim, Ronald McDonald and Colonel Sanders. In the 1990s Wranglers decided to expand from its core product, jeans, into the general clothing market; the attempt was a costly failure a€“ no-one believed Wranglers could make fashionable suits and jackets.
Christianitya€™s claim on universality led to its adopting many of the rites and festivals of paganism on the basis that these were all better expressed in Christian terms.
Successful rebrands are the ones we hardly notice as they either dona€™t concern us or offer us more of what we believe we want. In commercial marketing, only positive emotions such as well-being, rewards, security and inclusiveness are addressed. The rewards and punishments are big: eternal bliss in a world after death, contrasted with eternal torture or countless lifetimes of suffering. In commercial marketing the bad guy would take the form of an anti-mascot whose purpose is to stop you gaining the benefit symbolized by the mascot. Microsoft can't claim, although it might want to, that Mac users will have a terrible life, because there are plenty of Mac users who can easily refute the claim.
If the product can be shown not to deliver on its promises, the customer will be disillusioned and look elsewhere. Christianity today places much less emphasis on hell than it did in the middle ages, and accuses no-one of being a witch or a heretic. The claims a€“ spiritual development without doctrine or hierarchy a€“ are at variance with the facts. At the time of writing there is a furore over Subud's perceived anti-gay stance based on statements such as 'Homosexuality is not allowed by religion and it is not allowed by God.
Their use of 'loss leaders' is a manipulative ploy that exploits people's willingness to believe what they are told as long as it comes from a trusted authority. His talks contain a wealth of material from Javanese, HIndu, Muslim and Naqshbandi Sufi sources. Ignatius of Loyola, who after being wounded in a battle, experienced a religious conversion and composed the Spiritual Exercises to closely follow Christ. The fresco was created by Johann Christoph Handke in the Church of Our Lady Of the Snow in Olomouc after 1743. In much early religion story is the only clearly identifiable factor a€“ creation myth, disaster myth and divine intervention, making religion indistinguishable from story at the ordinary level.
Early religions certainly had heroes, but Heracles, Perseus, Theseus, Osiris, Apollo, Thor, Krishna and others were not the sole focus figure of their respective religious frameworks.
Think of the famous campaign for margarine based on the slogan a€?I cana€™t believe ita€™s not butter.a€™ People bought the margarine in the belief that it tasted as good as butter. You may believe that a sports shoe with a flash on it will make you run faster than one without.
To survive in the market a business must grow, and for that it needs an effective strategy.
User endorsements are the most reliable way of creating confidence in a product or service whose claim is unverifiable in advance.
More recently Pepsi-Cola tried one last effort to reverse its decline against Coca-Cola by rebranding itself with the colour blue, thereby shrinking its market share still further. There is no evidence that Christians originally believed Jesus to have been born (of a virgin) around the time of the winter solstice or to have been crucified and resurrected around the time of the spring celebration; but as these were major pagan festivals it was expedient to rebrand Christianity according to the pagan calendar. The commercial marketing industry has learned that whenever a negative reinforcer has been tried it has always failed, sometimes spectacularly, as in the 'You're Never Alone with a Strand' cigarette campaign.
To get people to believe these claims required, and still requires, a massive marketing effort. Religion can claim what it likes about eternal punishment because its claims can't be proved false. They aim to expand their membership, and in order to do that they must have an effective marketing programme based on a strong brand. Like many other spiritual movements Subud also plays the 'tradition' card: offering a connection that goes right back to the beginning.
In order to get round this difficulty and retain customer loyalty the promise of all 'major' religions is that the reward lies in another domain, i.e. Current Pope Francis says things like a€?When God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person? Supermarkets, like politicians and spiritual leaders, use various strategies to project themselves as trustworthy, friendly and 'on the customer's side'. Much of the material deals with the correct conditions for doing the latihan exercise, the 'lower forces' contained in the nafsu (passions), the organisation of the Subud movement and the setting up of businesses.
This consists of asking a question, putting oneself into the surrendered latihan state, and seeing what comes through.
All information in the lesions section comes from individuals that have dealt with extreme skin problems and have found ways of managing them using non-pharma products. Because the more complex or rarefied the product or service, the harder it is to establish a perceived benefit in advance of purchase. Later religions owe much to their use of story to address psychological problems such as insecurity and guilt.
In the Middle East the cults of Tammuz, Adonis, Zardush (Zoroaster) or Mithras lost a€?market sharea€™ to the monotheistic religions, despite sharing many of their features, because the latter had stronger brands.
In the consumer market, the incentive is money, and people with proven marketing skills are very highly paid. There are such things as stable, non-market-driven economies operating without the assumption that more is better and that security comes from having the most stuff. More successful have been McDonalda€™s attempt to claw back public goodwill lost in the junk food furore by projecting itself as sustainable and energy-efficient; tourist destinations such as Ireland, Tunisia and Egypt use seductive advertising to overcome the fear of terrorist attacks. Islama€™s pioneering and disinterested pursuit of science and philosophy increased the acceptability of its brand in medieval Europe.
People always associate the brand with the dominant emotion, even if the product is portrayed as conquering it. The Hamburglar tries to steal hamburgers away from children, and Ronald McDonald gets them back. This, however, undermines its case to be stating the truth (see Karl Popper, falsifiability theory).
It should come as no surprise to any Subud member who has read this far that Subud has such a programme.


It is also universalist: the 'one stop shop' - you can get everything you need here, why bother looking elsewhere?
It must either endorse the statements and practices of Pak Subuh and his followers, in which case it officially becomes a popularised Javanese cult (nothing inherently wrong in that), or revert to its original form in which such things are of peripheral interest compared to the 'product' (the spiritual exercise), the USP (no teaching, no hierarchy) and the story (how Pak Subuh received the latihan) which, again, is quite a good one.
Having acquired the trust and confidence of their customers they are then in a position to make statements and carry out actions which are not questioned. It claims to have no hierarchy, no teachings and no other set practice than the surrender exercise. An effective brand will not only persuade a customer to buy, but also ensure continued purchase (a€?brand loyaltya€™).
Convince people they are getting something for nothing and theya€™ll not only flock to buy your product, theya€™ll be grateful! To solve these problems they first had to establish ownership of their solutions, in exactly the same way as a marketing campaign for GM food claims to solve third world hunger, or a supermarket a€?beats the recessiona€™ by claiming to create jobs and slash prices. Not surprisingly, societies with non-expansionist economies tend to have non-expansionist religions, if they have religions at all. Islamic religious tracts are full of a€?so-and-so saida€™ or a€?so-and-so heard such-and-such saya€™.
The dogmatist Al-Ghazali single-handedly reversed that trend by introducing the idea that God was directly involved in every natural phenomenon, therefore nothing could be studied in the absence of theology. This particular campaign was predictably short-lived, since it followed the rule that advertising which focuses on a negative attaches the negative to the brand.
There World Subud Association (WSA) hosts regular discussions about promoting the message of Subud and protecting its reputation. The appeal of a single product 'specially formulated' for all types of application - engine oil, shampoo, plant feed etc. Pak Subuh said, 'you will only know the benefit of the latihan after you die' (1985, S Widjojo Centre, Jakarta). There are customer endorsements aplenty, the logo is strong, the free offer is there ('no charge, contributions welcome') a€“ everything is in place but one: a clear and accurate brand.
Powerful marketing tools such as logo, endorsement, free offer, unique selling proposition and story access the emotional, not the logical part of the brain. The key element is belief in God (the latihan exercise is believed to be guidance and direction from the power of God). The story of the specially-engineered solution to the perceived problem becomes part of the brand.
In the established a€?brandsa€™ there is a payment for services rendered: the notion that if one a€?buys ina€™ to certain ideas, one gets something in return - heavenly rewards, increased merit, good fortune, nirvana or some such thing, desire for which has been created and developed by the marketing department concerned. The religions with the most aggressive strategies arise out of market economies, and offer bonuses for spreading the word.
Christian scriptures and hagiographies consist largely of deeds, sayings and observations recorded by witnesses. This led directly to the loss of Islama€™s lead in technology and the decline of its global influence a€“ something that Al-Ghazali could not have intended. This resulted in people associating the product with the negative emotion and abandoning it in droves.
It is possible to influence people radically, but one must first know what they believe, or are willing to believe. This concept of divine remuneration is central to all the a€?greata€™ religions, whose designers established such promised rewards as physical resurrection from the dead, eternal life in paradise, or freedom from reincarnation and attainment of eternal bliss; a benefit that they not only expected to receive themselves but offered as an incentive to others.
Some of them eulogise martyrdom a€“ what could be a better customer endorsement than the willingness to defend a product to the death?
Brand loyalty is built on the fact that the more opinions you hear reinforcing a certain sales message, the more likely you are to believe it yourself. Judaism a€?rebrandeda€™ itself successfully after the sack of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple, by removing the requirement for sacrifice and instituting the synagogue and the rabbinate. The initial spread of Subud a€“ a God-centred organisation a€“ was solely due to the efforts of a man displeasing to God.
Earlier religions had less well-developed incentive schemes; as a Viking warrior who died in battle you might go to Valhalla and drink mead, but only in order to fight again with Odin at the last battle of Ragnarok! The ultimate customer endorsement, dying for the brand, seems excessive to most people today but nevertheless fits the category. This fundamental reconfiguration enabled it to survive without the core elements by which it had previously defined itself, but limited the brand's appeal.
This if nothing else places Subud in a ludicrous position and I find it most odd that no Subud leader has ever publicly remarked on the fact, certainly not Pak Subuh himself nor his daughter Ibu Rahayu (currently the main Subud opinion-former). As an ancient Greek or Egyptian you would expect your behaviour in life to determine your fate after death, but you would have no concept of special bonuses for promulgating the faith, or dying for it.
A customer has bought the product and is so satisfied with it that he makes his satisfaction public in the most irrefutable way possible. I don't know any anti-gay Subud members and the ones I know share my personal view that Pak Subuh's doctrines are at best quaint, at worst inaccurate and ignorant. But remember that brands do not appeal to common sense, but to the emotions, first of all building desire and then positioning a product or service so as to appear to fulfil that desire. It might be thought a bit odd that in Christianity the mascot (Jesus) endorses the brand (dies for his belief) in order first of all to create it. It underwent various tranformations on its journey, most noticeable of which is the alteration of the Buddhaa€™s image from Indian thin to Chinese fat, representing the change from the original Indian ideal of balance and discipline to the Chinese one of happiness and prosperity. Customer loyalty has to be very strong to overcome this problem, and latihan experience itself is often the overrider. It would be as if the Jolly Green Giant advertised tinned peas by writing his own testimonial on the tin a€“ it wouldna€™t work, because we know the Jolly Green Giant is not real.
Which explains why the early struggle of Christianity centred on proving the historicity of Jesus. If the brand mascot is a real person, not just a symbol, it can do all kinds of things a mere icon cana€™t do. The mix will not stop new itch spots or bumps and lumps, but it will get RID of existing ones without leaving a trace. Without proper flora the body is open to many different type of skin infections since the flora is our immune defense against invaders. You can also open capsules of probiotics and not just one since you are covering a large area Beware that in the morning the liquid will have absorbed into your skin or evaporated leaving lots of crumbs and it's messy. I also learned and am not surprised that scientists are discovering that humans are missing certain key bacteria from the skin that the human body requires. There is also a clinical trial underway to study the skin of children across USA."??Posted Oct. At the store I found Absorbine Jr Cream and although it did burn for about 2-3 minutes after a short amount of time enduring I found it to be soothing and took the itching and pain away. After a few days of applying 2-3 times per day I found that it actually pulled out alot of all the horrible things that were under the massive very deep crusted lesions on my arm (can be seen before and after photo).After some success I began looking at the ingredients and determined all the natural things that it was made from, one of which was camphor (another good one is wormwood and aloe), and began trying other over the counter camphor based items by looking at the percentage of camphor within each product. The ones I currently have now are all microscopic and can no longer be seen with the naked eye.
However I will say that while the camphor I believe is helping to rid my internal system, it also has a price of the purging and expelling (so it has not been an easy pain free task), but I know I am healing. The camphor bottle has a stopper in the top allowing only one drop at a time, and once I did get too many drops which caused a euphoric sensation through my body. Again everything in moderation!!I also use a bottle of Vaposteam in hot baths for soaking that has camphor. The oil in the camphor and the aroma baths soften the skin, pull the fibers out, clear the sinuses, and help relax for a good nights sleep as well. Much to my amazement I actually saw tons of blue fibers pour out of the lesion right before my eyes (I had never seen them come out of my body like that, usually when fiber bundles were present with the naked eye I would wake in the morning to find them there).After several months of taking it internally I had concerns that I may be hurting my blood, kidneys or liver and told my doctor what I was doing and requested referrals for urinalysis and bloodwork.
Just as a test I stopped taking it once and within a week the clumps of fibers returned, so I began again which took another week for it to get back in my system to get relief again. I sometimes now take a break for a day or two if I am doing good, but don't go more than 2 days without at least a few drops.Disclaimer I am not advising anyone to use any of the items I choose to use for myself, you and you alone are responsible for your own healing and research, I am merely telling what has worked for me!?Posted Oct. She used this formula on the face and on the eyelids with no problem and claims her eyebrows and eyelashes are growing back. Her before and after photo shows the improvement, but I am not publishing them as it reveals her face.
Her formula contains DMSO which some feel is controversial, so do your own research and decide if it's the right direction for you. This is the only thing that ever worked without destroying my skin.I got onto the idea of DMSO.
It is a carrier and contrary to what experts say it is not harmful, you can research it yourself if you haven't already done so. I believe the DMSO carries the other oils deep into the skin and  kills the "what ever they are". You won't be able to get them all out and yes some may die in the skin and cause a breakout, but over time is will subside.
It's taken me over a year now as certain section of my face were harder to deal with specifically the chin and cheeks. You don't have to wash your face but rinse it and apply a very thin layer at night before you go to bed. It seems now that I may never be rid of this completely but it is manageable.
I was using antibiotics and I'd have to smear it on everyday and still not get rid of this and those antibiotics are not good for you. Most of my pores are tight like they were when I was young. FAR Infrared Using a FAR infrared sauna suit, Donna Staehr was able to clear up lesions that had been present for two years all over her body. With her permission, I'm sharing her "before" and "after" photos as well as her story (in italics).


I couldn't breath properly, couldn't even walk to my letterbox without puffing and wheezing.
I'm still not healed, but it's more maintenance now, and these days I'm trying to fix all the damage done to the body—a long road as you know.
If I had to buy a unit right now, I would not purchase this unit again but would go for a suit or blanket that envelopes the entire body as I think these would be much more effective then having a pad. Learn how Infrared Therapy will benefit your healthHow does Far Infrared Therapy really work?The infrared light increases cellular metabolic rates by triggering mitochondria activity. The build up of toxins in a health body could block the normal blood circulation and impair the cellular energy.
When FIR waves are applied, the water molecules that encapsulate the toxins get heat up, and start to vibrate. This vibration reduces the ion bonds of the atoms that are holding together the molecules of water. Scientists in Japan report that in the FIR treatment of clogged capillary vessels, heat expands the capillaries and then initiates the start of a process to dissolve hidden toxins.
Far Infrared thereby promotes elimination of fats, chemicals and toxins from the blood: Poisons, carcinogenic heavy metals - toxic substances from food processing - lactic acid, free fatty acids, and subcutaneous fat associated with aging and fatigue - excess sodium associated with hypertension - and uric acid which causes pain. Furthermore, if sebaceous glands are activated, accumulated cosmetics in pores can be eliminated through the skin (sweat and oil glands) rather than by the kidneys.3) Far Infrared stimulates enzyme activity and metabolism - One hour under the Hotouse improves metabolism. Furthermore, it increases growth of cells, DNA syntheses, and protein synthesis all necessary during tissue repair and regeneration. Excellent for healing burns, scar tissue and skin problems.6) Far Infrared relieves nervous tension and relax autoneuro muscles thereby helping the body make the most of its intended healing abilities. I am mentioning this because people with Morgellons know they flair when they sweat and it was like that for me as well but NOT when I sweated from FIR. It is the furthest red on the spectrum and that spectrum of light is a very healing kind of light for humans and animals too.Incidentally the military has used FIR for ages for detoxification purposes.
I always thought it was normal for me to run low, as I can never remember not running low.It doesn't seem to be normal though, because now that it's up, it stays up, I'm feeling good. None of this is medical advice and all of it is based on only my own VERY un-scientific observations.
His experience is that if lesions ooze onto clothing, you can spread the infection via the fabric. Sometimes I back the square with another square which is "dry" on the back of the first honey soaked dressing square. I treat new lesions immediatly before they get worse. The manuka honey        One unique advantage is manuka honeys ability to rapidly re-granulate the wound after the expulsion process.
It also has the unique ability to stimulate immune cells at the wound site, something that no over-the-counter or Rx product can do. This works well for me because I do not have to endure pain as previously, because manuka honey is an excellect analgesic.
Massage it in and they come to the surface before they can grow laterally in the skin layers. When he tells me he finds something that works, I pay particular attention because he has been hitting this disease hard. Tests on the morg bacteria on slides shows that it does kill the bacteria that makes the gels. Had a major breakout of lesions on one side of my face.
Sure enough, there are those courageous and marginally insane folks who refuse to succumb to the drill and are healing their own teeth. It was tough, and at times scary but the tooth did heal." I'd like to share my experience with oil pulling using coconut oil. Three or four times in the three years since getting Morgellons, a sore has popped up on the roof of my mouth near the teeth. In the past, it has taken up to two weeks to fully go away because brushing the teeth rips open the sore which bleeds.
The last time I got one of these sores I decided (after two days) to begin coconut pulling. I swished the oil around 20 minutes? in the morning upon awakening and in the evening before bed. Since then, I've continued to do coconut pulling at least once in the morning.? I have to admit, I'm pretty obsessive when it comes to my teeth. Things I have used on my teeth over time. Bentonite clay Rub the gums with it before bed (and leave it in the mouth). It's fine if you end up swallowing it in your sleep as it's very healthy and helps with detoxification. For those that take Bentonite internally as a detoxifier, note that it should be taken away from supplements.Garlic is a natural antibiotic I have experimented with extensively for fighting infection both internally and externally for years and can attest to it's antibiotic properties. I've used this method on my teeth before I even had Morgellons with good results. If you feel you've got a serious infection in your tooth, taking garlic internally, might be a secondary support to your system. Make sure there is food in your stomach before ingesting raw garlic as it can burn in the most brutal fashion. Use only a half clove (or less) at a time to make sure your stomach is okay before taking a whole clove. Also, some cultures like the Chinese, believe too much garlic overstimulates the liver, which can cause fitful sleep. If you have a bad abcess in the mouth, and feel the infection has progressed to a serious stage, you will need to determine if antibiotics are the way to go. I had a really bad infection (pre-Morgellons) that I took antibiotics for and feel that was the best choice at the time. At the time of writing, I believed that I had had some sort of infestation in my apartment. However, if you do have a bug problem in your environment, these tips should get rid of it. I've written more about the need to get confirmation that there really is a problem in your environment on the "Reflections" page. Do not breathe in the fumes if you can help it and don't stay in any room you are treating! Make a point of using them in sealed areas or bins and open windows or use an exhaust fan to ventilate afterwards. Some people buy the diffusers that have a candle in them. Menthol usage for dirty laundry (do not use menthol crystals in the washing machine) —Clothes are a big reinfection point.
The whole idea behind using the bin with crystals is that you want to kill anything in the laundry BEFORE you put it in the wash so that you are not exposing yourself to re-infection when you handle it at the washer.
You'll get the feel for how much you should use over time. After the clothing has been mentholating for a few hours, you can reach in and turn the laundry ensuring that everything in the bin has been well exposed to the menthol. When you are ready to turn off the heating element, pull the plug rather than opening the bin. This works well—especially if you have things like down coats.You can do your shoes this way too or any other items you are unsure of!
Using menthol crystals on furniture (such as a couch) —Buy a big plastic drop-cloth from a hardware store with as thick a plastic as is available and 'TENT' your couch. I wouldn't make a habit of wearing unwashed mentholated clothing as I believe it is unhealthy to inhale the vapors over a long period. Some people have tried to mentholate rooms. Open dresser draws, closet doors, and try to keep in mind that you want to make sure as much air circulation gets around things as possible. Don't do this if you have fishtanks in the room, and make sure to protect your pets by keeping them out. Computer Equipment —I disassembled all my equipment including cords and put them into a big bin with mothballs. It did the trick.Mothballs are nasty and toxic, this is a last resort solution and I suggest you do your best to limit exposure especially when it comes to inhaling. Also, note that certain plastic foams will absorb the odor of the mothballs and there is no way to get that smell out.
If you have a problem in an isolated area such as a room, I'd put a bin right outside the door with diatomaceous earth? in it, or methol crystals. I encourage those wanting to interact with others in the Morgellons communtiy to join the forum (or the many other Facebook groups). Gratitude to Rayelta Nayar? for all her hard work preparing these!Note that I am not publishing the below pdfs as recommendations.
I'm not endorsing nor do I follow any of the protocols below, yet, feel the public should have easy access to the information and form their own opinions about them. Reflections Awareness Poster Links Ayla's Art Contact Ayla Morgellons Disease: Tips for healing lesions, oral care and environment   Information for dealing with Morgellons lesions using topical aids as well as FAR infrared technology. It's not a cure, but it WILL rid each and every lesion if the application is consistent. You can also open capsules of probiotics and not just one since you are covering a large area Beware that in the morning the liquid will have absorbed into your skin or evaporated leaving lots of crumbs and it's messy. Her formula contains DMSO which some feel is controversial, so do your own research and decide if it's the right direction for you. It is a carrier and contrary to what experts say it is not harmful, you can research it yourself if you haven't already done so. You won't be able to get them all out and yes some may die in the skin and cause a breakout, but over time is will subside. It's taken me over a year now as certain section of my face were harder to deal with specifically the chin and cheeks.
I was using antibiotics and I'd have to smear it on everyday and still not get rid of this and those antibiotics are not good for you.



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