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The MTA has entered into a non-competitive deal with Nova Bus LFS to purchase 328 low-floor articulated clean diesel buses for just over $700,000 per bus. According to the board documents, these new articulated buses will be delivered from August 2011 through April 2013, and some bus routes may see less service as a result.
The majority of these buses will be used to replace high floor articulated buses which have reached the end of their 12 year useful life and been in service since 1998 (20 buses) and 2000 (260 buses); the remaining 48 will be used to expand ariculated bus service throughout the 5 boroughs.
The project has a local component as well as all of the buses will be manufactured upstate in Plattsburgh, New York. I don’t know about LRVs, but regional DMUs are built to be as similar as possible to buses on the inside, so that small cities can maintain them in one shop together with buses.
Possibly the efficiencies of articulated buses improve throughput enough that frequency doesn’t go down. Because frequencies are determined based on loads, and it takes fewer buses to carry the same number of people.
The more popular routes have many people not boarding the first bus that arrives due to overcrowding anyhow. I prefer using a greater number of smaller buses that handle heavy traffic better, are faster, and will come more often. And come to think of it the systems where I have experienced the smaller, faster busses (which are a real pleasure to use) are all in developing countries where labor is cheaper. Setting aside problems like accessibility, on any busy line such buses just will need longer dwell times and stuff.
I figured there wasn’t much point in getting these without an eventual eye towards at least some more SBS.
Not when the current (interim) POP implemention doesn’t equip inspectors with MetroCard readers.
Okay, so what you’re saying is that even though the report says there will be POP only on SBS, it may change anyway, because… what? Well, if the buses were that much slower, then it wouldn’t actually save on the number of drivers needed (if articulated buses come every 20 minutes and take 80 minutes to complete their run, while normal buses come every 15 and need 60 to complete their run, then you need four buses and drivers either way, and more fuel in the former case).
The new buses also have the added benefit of a 3rd set of doors and low floors to speed boarding and cut dwell times at stops.


New York City is getting a massive bus system upgrade, and it’ll involve 2,042 new buses being added by the year 2020. The buses will be coming to Queens first, arriving in April as a sort of test rollout before the wider expansion into the rest of the New York City. You won’t have to catch one of the new buses to use the technology, though — the MTA plans to retrofit charging ports and WiFi into its existing buses, with all express buses having it by the end of next year.
The buses will also include digital signs as part of a pilot project — these add $15,000 to the bus price tag, but could make life easier for everyone, particularly travelers who don’t have smartphones for up-to-date data. More New Yorkers than ever use our public transportation system to move through our city, and these essential upgrades will improve commutes for millions of our residents.
Following the 75 buses hitting the roads in Queens starting in the second quarter of this year, another 70 buses will follow in Brooklyn over the next 24 months, followed then by a larger fleet of 209 buses in the Bronx and 18 buses in Manhattan. The summary, found on page 79 of today’s MTA Board books, notes that this price is $14,000 lower per bus than Nova had originally proposed. Converting a route to articulated bus operation has an immediate impact on operating costs because 4 standard buses are replaced with 3 articulated buses resulting in a reduction in operator-related costs, fewer miles being driven and a need for fewer buses to meet peak service requirements. Finally, the MTA says it will soon open a competitive bidding process for an even larger order of articulated buses.
Not only are these problems been addressed or at least coped with in cities all over the world, but even New York has left over infrastructure from its streetcar days. Bus bunching is a big problem in NYC and and a bus coming every 4 minutes instead of every 3 minutes increases average wait time by 30 seconds – not a meaningful service reduction. The buses will come with a big price tag — the cost will ultimately be $1.3 billion — but they'll meet the needs of modern-day travelers. The digital signs will include details like the day’s weather and details about the bus's route. Internet access has become a necessity, not a privilege-- and from charging ports to WiFi, this new MTA fleet will provide critical tech services that New Yorkers depend on each day. All remaining buses will rollout in various undetermined routes throughout different parts of the city. New Flyer is currently testing its own low floor articulated clean disel bus, and once those vehicles pass their structural integrity tests, Transit will order a 90-bus pilot.


Many of them run all day and night, stopping and going and picking up thousands of passengers a day while they drive dozens of miles at a time over the worst streets imaginable.
The buses will be fitted with WiFi, electronic signs featuring pertinent information, and ports for charging phones. It has almost a Ferrari-like look, aerodynamic.” These classy Euro-inspired buses will be rolling out over the next half decade, and each come with a price tag of $755,000 USD. The Governor and MTA should be commended for making this investment in our city's transportation system.
If those buses are successful on the city streets, it will open the RFP process for even more new buses. Other than more capacity, bonuses include vehicle operating lives that bat in closer to half a century rather than twelve years, better acceleration, even faster boarding, and more room for expansion.
Obviously the upfront cost is high, but higher than having to replace our bus fleet every 12 years? Condemning some land, or building out to relatively vacant land, or sharing facilities with subway shops, or sharing a bus depot, or whatever else is probably the cheap part. Now if the MTA could get the NYPD to commit to keeping tracks cleared of cars, then maybe we would have the opertunity to have light rail.
The price tag includes a $2,000 fee for adding WiFi service, and a $3,000 cost for adding USB charging ports. In reality, all that would have happened is everyone would have been perfectly happy in a few weeks and life would have gone on sans some traffic congestion – just like it did with Times Square and the Broadway street reclamations. Let me also remind you that NYPD promised the MTA they would keep the bus lanes cleared.So until then no light rail.




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