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Our dog Leon, an 11-month-old male Rhodesian Ridgeback, has has a wart on his right ear for about three months now. Hi Emily,From the photo you sent of Leon, and the description of the wart, and a new one coming up on the right side of his lip, hair loss on his front and back legs, he needs a dose of Thuya high potency 200c or 1 M.
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond again!I am seriously considering taking the approach you suggest (even though we just spent $300 at the vet yesterday!). Dr Richard Pitcairn's book, Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs and Cats and another one called, "Natural Health Bible for Dogs & Cats."I don't know what the options are for treating the bacterial infection. Hi Emily,I am so sorry to hear about your disappointing visit to a 'holistic' veterinarian.
I finished giving him the antibiotics three days ago and the wart started smelling over a week ago.
Hi again, I am considering whether or not I need to take Leon to the vet in my neighborhood tomorrow.
Hi Emily, Sounds good! Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below. A friend of mine first noticed it in the park one day and I took one look and said, "Oh, that's nothing. I have given Leon the ivermectin for 2 days now, but the more I learn, the more I want to stop giving it to him immediately! Pitcairn was my teacher for homeopathy, and he continues to teach veterinarians and lecture at the annual conferences! It sounds like she is being very conservative and cautious in her treatment of Leon, but he is still young, and that is in his favor!At this point, all of his problems are still localized to the "surface", meaning his skin area. The "holistic" vet and her colleague both advised against it, but in all my research I see people suggesting a raw diet. It certainly sounds like you are on the right track with the huge amount of dog dietary supplements you are adding to Leon's food. Tillman, Thank you for taking the time to respond again! I think we are making some progress. If he had a dose about 2-3 weeks ago and NOW the wart, aka Edwarto, is changing causing Leon to itch at it and it is smelling bad, it is probably 'dying' and attempting to slough off. If he has not had a dose of the Sulphur, then I would be concerned that it may be a secondary bacterial infection. He doesn't have any of the other symptoms like diarrhea, fever, or loss of appetite. I put some hydrogen peroxide on it this morning. If not, then hopefully someone will be watching him, to notice if he does stop eating, become lethargic, or act sick. Tillman, I brought Leon with me so that I can monitor him and continue to give him his special diet. Tillman! I hope all is well with you. Just checking in to give you a little update and tell you that I met Dr. Gil, so he can look at him? That would be ideal, as he would suggest something more holistic, or that would blend with homeopathy and not interfere with it. Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below. I'm glad you had a chance to get away! I have been giving him the Standard Process Immuplex as well as Ester-C and zinc. It's just a bud or seed of some sort." At that point I reached to pluck it out of his ear and realized that it was attached. But I would be very suspicious that this came up after his last vaccinations at 6 months of age.For you to obtain a high potency of Thuya, you will need to contact a holistic veterinarian and they will take the case, including his whole history, personality, likes and dislikes, diet, what kind of environment he is in, and any other pets you may have.
I am also considering a raw dog food diet.The vet says that the mange could have been brought on by allergies which would make it a "chronic" case.
She was extremely discouraging!She told me that because he is almost a year old, the mange came back after the first ivermectin treatment (when he was around 5 months), and the demodex is generalized, she doesn't feel optimistic that this is something that will go away even with extra immune support and says the ivermectin may need to be used.
I trust you way more than any of the vets I have visited and I have never even met you!I am waiting for a few items in the mail (sulphur, ester-C, vitamin E capsules, Animal Essentials plant enzymes and probiotics, and oyster mushrooms) and in the meantime I've been giving him the Orijen kibble with vegetables, OL-Immune drops from Animals' Apawthecaey, salmon oil, Dream Coat from Halo (soybean oil, wheatgerm oil, saflower oil, sunflower oil, garlic oil, , anise), zinc, vitamin C for dogs, L-lysine, and Immune One powder mixed in.Why do you say no dry food? Hopefully, since everything else seems well with him, he has good energy, his hair is starting to grow back, he is on healthy supplements and canned food, (I would wean him off of all dry food)he should be able to handle this ok.
It was definitely not comfortable for him. I'm leaving for Vermont this morning and will be back Sunday night. Then they should NOT wait until you get back, but take him to a veterinarian immediately. In the meantime, you can continue the lower potency Sulphur 30X 3 times daily until you receive the Sulphur 200c. I have been travelling out of town for the 4th of July, visiting family, and did not get a chance to respond right away.
I also give him a little Immune One powder by Source One Naturals as well as Vitamin E and L-Lysine. Carol Jean Tillman DISCLAIMER: This educational advice is based on the depth of your question and the picture you submitted. I hope you are well! I can tell you that Leon is doing wonderfully on the raw diet and supplements. Please continue.The ear drainage is going to continue, for awhile, and will be the last to clear up. The best thing to do is to take your pet red ear slider turtle to a qualified (one who knows reptiles) vet. The wart was about the size of a small flower bud.About a week later, I took him to the vet to get it checked out. Continuing to treat him with "conventional" drugs (antibiotics and medicine for the Demodex) will further compromise and suppress his immune system.

She suspects it could likely be a chronic condition.I told her about my plan to put him on a raw diet and she strongly advised against it, reasoning that if he has a compromised immune system, there is a much greater chance that he could pick up something from the raw meat such as salmonella. In the meantime, perhaps you could use hydrogen peroxide to clean the wart daily, and decrease the surface bacteria.
I've been giving him two a day about 12 hours apart. I gave him the antibiotics for the bacterial infection he had on his skin from the mange. Especially, if the wart tissue is so dense and thick, that the blood supply is compromised, then oral antibiotics being circulated in the blood stream would not be absorbed all the way into the wart, therefore, leaving a necrotic or 'gangrenous' center. The Sulphur 30X is too low a potency. If you are able to put the hydrogen peroxide into a spray bottle and spray it onto the wart, maybe that would be less painful for Leon? However, I am also worried that if I do take him to the vet around here, they will tell me to give him antibiotics or tell me it needs to be removed then they will charge me all sorts of money. The wart still appears to have some inflammation, and drainage, as the wart tissue 'dissolves' away.
To decide if we should repeat the Sulphur 200c (one dose) or wait longer, especially if Leon is continuing to improve, then we would wait longer.Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below. And then hopefully, the wart will disappear completely.I think that he may need ONE dose, (give ONE time only) of the Sulphur 200c. They were general made for pet drugs or a reptile formula – none of them were formulated specially for pet turtles.
She informed me that it was a wart, that it was nothing to worry about, and that it would fall off on its own in a couple months.Well, since then, it has grown significantly in size.
These will cause him to become sicker, more allergy-prone, and susceptible to other diseases on a 'deeper' level (such as liver, kidney or heart disease). Pitcairn's book for treatment of mange (see the section under Skin Parasites) and treatment of mange with bacterial infection. If so, the Orijen ingredients don't include yeast.I checked and Orijen doesn't make a wet food. Wouldn't that take care of any bacterial infection he might have on the wart as well? Could it be that his body is fighting it off and that is why it's starting to itch and smell? Even if you are repeating it 2-3 times daily, it is still too low to do much, especially in light of the changes occurring with the wart. You should still put a muzzle on his mouth, to make sure he can not bite you. Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.
I've been keeping everything up and feeding Leon only wet food (Wellness) and I think I'm seeing signs of improvement. It's very small now and doesn't smell anymore, but the mange is still a problem. I'm giving him the sulphur 200c twice a day and he's on a totally raw diet now. Keeping it as clean as possible will help keep Leon more comfortable and prevent any secondary infection. It has been about 4-6 weeks since it was last given to him.Send me an update in one month, perhaps the week after Labor Day. Carol Jean Tillman DISCLAIMER: This educational advice is based on the depth of your question and the picture you submitted. Right now, he only has 'surface' problems, meaning that everything is localized to the skin, warts, allergies, and mites.You are on the right track with some immune support, and starting a raw diet. And she says she thinks Orijen Large Breed Puppy Kibble, which I've always given him, is a good food.It turns out he also has infections in both ears. Even though he may be drinking water, or you add some meat to his kibble, that is NOT enough.
We have to put Leon (and Edwarto, as we call the wart) outside in the backyard just so we can eat without our stomachs turning! I'll continue to give him the low potency in the meantime. I'm so worried! Thank you for all of your help, Dr.
And also give you HIS opinion on what could be done in a holistic manner! I think the calendula tincture is an excellent suggestion to try, since the hydrogen peroxide is so irritating and painful for Leon.
There may be some new hair growth in some areas but it's hard to tall because there are other areas where he seems to be losing more hair. It’s an NSAID (non steroidal anti inflammatory) drug that controls pain and inflammation. The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person. But Leon needs some homeopathic remedies to 'cure' him, not conventional drugs, and definitely NO MORE vaccinations!To find a holistic veterinarian in your area click here:find a holistic veterinarian in your areaPlease keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below. You are NOT supposed to touch the pellets with your fingers, just pour one into the cap, then pull out Leon's lip and place the pellet into the 'side' pouch. He's a mess!So, I'm going to do what I can to boost his immune system and I will get the sulphur, but nutritionally, I'm not sure what to do anymore.I really hope this isn't a chronic condition!This visit was not helpful in any way! The area around the root of it used to be more pink, or alive, looking as well as a few areas closer to the head.
It also sounds like you are prepared for the long haul on feeding him a raw meat diet! Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below. But now that you have started the much higher potency of 200c, you do NOT need to give as frequently. The area of skin around it is very red and irritated.I can't tell if the base of it, the part that is attached to him, is getting smaller, or it's just getting bigger.

Homeopathic remedies are available at health food stores, or at online homeopathic Pharmacies.Externally, use purple cone flower (Echinachia) compresses on his skin. In fact, you should STOP giving it, and not repeat it, until we evaluate Leon's status with the mange situation.
A lot of other websites state that it has a palatable (tasty) taste and that dogs will easily accept it. It would be best to take your pet turtle to a qualified (reptile) vet to be physically inspected and treated.February 26, 2011victoriamy turtle michel angelo has his eyes almost completly shut. It is time for Edwarto to go!! I'm continuing to give Leon everything I mentioned in my last message. The only pink I see is in areas a little under the surface that have been exposed from scratching. It no longer secretes liquid or odor and doesn't bother him at all. One thing I have noticed though is that he tends to get a lot of wax in his ears. If you've found this service or our web site helpful, please "Like" us by clicking the like button at the top of the left margin. Just today I noticed a few more skin-colored "tentacles" creeping up around the side.I also noticed today that he seems to have another wart that has just begin to grow on his mouth. Thank you!DISCLAIMER: This educational advice is based on the depth of your question and the picture you submitted. Overall, it may take 3-6 months, and will also involve increasing the potency of the Sulphur, or changing remedies depending on Leon's response. This will act as a poultice to cool the inflammation and improve the 'good' bacterial population in his ears.
I'm not totally sure, but I think I see hair growing back on his legs and belly! I did end up giving him the antibiotics because I just didn't have the time to treat the bacterial infection naturally. In terms of his energy, he seems normal and is a very happy dog. Ah, and the wart that was forming on his mouth is now gone! I decided to start Leon on a raw diet since his immune system seems to be getting stronger. I'm pretty sure that the front leg hair loss is from the harness we use n him (which I've now wrapped in fleece so it doesn't irritate his skin so much), but I don't know what to make of the bag leg hair loss. Clean off any residue that comes out onto the side of his face and clean the underside of his ear flaps. Even though I cleaned it yesterday (with a towel dampened with diluted tea tree oil), when I looked at it again tonight, there was a large ring of dried blood on the underside of his ear--the part that lies against the wart. It didn't seem to bother him before, but now I think it's uncomfortable. The government considered Pet food to be non-essential, so the pet food companies, realizing they needed to figure out an alternate packaging for the food, developed a way to bake the canned food, so they could store it in BAGS.
Sometimes I'll substitute the kale for broccoli or green squash. How do you think all this sounds? One time he even urinated on me when I was giving him (or trying to give him) some metacam. This was only to be temporary until after the war was over, then they could go back to canned foods. When I was cleaning the wart itself (not the underside of the ear) tonight with the diluted tea tree oil, he snapped at me.
When I mentioned that the best advice I'd gotten was from you, he told me that he knows you.
Well, when the war ended, the pet food industry discovered that people liked the convenience of DRY food. Funny how the universe works sometimes! He told me to continue to follow all of your advice, but to use calendula oil on the wart rather than hydrogen peroxide because he thinks it will be more soothing. It was cheaper, it didn't smell, you could just pour it into a bowl and leave it out all day!
He also said that if I feel I Leon needs it, he would be willing to work with you and be your "eyes." For now, I'm going to keep up with what I'm doing, replacing the wet food with raw meat. Therefore, they did not re-call the dry food, they could make more money, offering BOTH canned food and dry food!
Each drop would immediately spill out from his eyes – turtle eyes seem so small compared to the size of the drops.
Dry food did not come into existence because it was healthier for dogs, it is NOT healthier!!
It is only a way make the pet food companies more money.Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.
It was a gift from a relative and we found out it was illigal to have a turtle that little. SO CAN SOONE PRETTY PLESE HELP ME IM BEGGING IF U KNOW HOW TO CURE THIS PROBLME PLESE REPLY OR GIVR ME ADVICE.I LOVE MY TURTLE SOOOOO MUCH AND DONT WANT TO SEE IT DIE AS A BABYMarch 21, 2011forlogoshard to tell exactly what's wrong with your pet turtle. And the peace of mind that my pet turtle was receiving the care and medicine he needed to recover is priceless. She swallowed a piece of dried silicon glue after ripping it out from the bottom of her tank and swallowed it before we could stop her.

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