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Depending on the performance and viewing effects you're after, you use a factor of your longest equipment to get the needed radius. For me, the light bulbs suddenly came on with this new approach - and I wondered why no one had spelled it out like this before! The very instant I saw your reply I remembered reading that article when I first signed up to MRH. I understand what Tony is saying.One of the things that I attempted to do was use a shorter version of the grass in front and then longer in the back. My opinion on this is that all available scenery techniques and materials are useful for realistic modeling, and they all should be utilized as-needed.
I can think of areas of Eastern Oregon that are miles upon miles of the same monochromatic color sso the "golden" effect looks familiar to me. I recently posted this picture of the Atherton engine facility asking if anyone could spot the deliberate error. I could still possible shuffle things around, with the exception of the ash pit which obviously is sunk into the base board close to the turntable. You can't use both tracks anyway if you are receiving coal and sand, so just make one track the through track. Steam was long gone from the AC&Y by the time I was hanging around so I never saw it in action. I would not expect to find an ash pit near a Espee roundhouse unless you were in Northern New Mexico. I can recall an old layout article In MR in maybe the 1950s about a Wisconsin, Milwaukee Road branch which had minimal engine facilities. I would not want to be the guy putting 25 or 30 tons of coal into a tender with one of those bucket or wheel barrow operations. It seams like putting in a Photo Detector or photo interrupters circuit would be a lot cheaper and easier to set up then messing with the power distribution system that already has all the command functions going through those wires. Adding a series of Photo interrupters (1 every 36 inches) and setting up a display board that lights up as your train passes the light sensitive transistors . As I understand it, the dcc power to the locomotives is half wave ac at a high frequency that appears to the dc motors to be a pulsed dc.
I like SP lettering gray as a primer with weathered black as the weathering starting point for steam engines. Also keep in mind that layout lights are a lot dimmer than outdoors, so a great looking model seen outdoors will be too dark on the layout.
Try to use a chemical blackener for moving parts to avoid paint buildups and shiny spots due to wear. Weathering can be overdone, and most engines you see nowdays are in outdoor scrapyards where they have not been cared for in a long time. Most roundhouses had the locos pull in because the floor space at the outside of the circle was greater. They may have reversed the roof structure to maximize the size of the windows allowing in light.


These are three views of the Arkansas & Louisiana Missouri roundhouse that used to be in Monroe, La.
There is a simple declaration for roundhouses for steam engines where the smoke jacks should be installed. All steam engines can stand under a smoke stack at track end if they run with stack in front into a roundhouse - regardless of whether the locomotive is short or long. In other case - engines run with their tenders as first into roundhouse - only normal long engines and shorter ones can stand under a smoke jack.
And it's true, steam engines require the most maintenance at smoke box, pumps and in cab and thus a position forward in the roundhouse is the best way for repairs, maintenance and service under a closed roof.
Maybe this is all a bit different for diesel engines, but there is not the roundhouse the regular case but smaller or larger sheds in very different designs. They work for all scales and they incorporate all the correct considerations you need to be thinking about when selecting a minumum radius.
If static grass is wrong, I don't wanna be right.JamieThere is nothing wrong with static grass applied properly but huge expanses or uniform color just don't look natural. Engines uncouple, back round the train a short way and then can head to the inbound service track. The coaling facility is under construction and could fit either between water and ash on inbound or just before sand on outbound. The blueprints were scanned and then section at a time placed on an Illustrator art board and line art created. Think of a terminal that coaled through trains that were powered by articulated or Texas types or Berkshire locomotives.
A loco has to get into a roundhouse under its own steam and assuming that you drop the fire into the ash pit, you’re on borrowed time. But I’m leaning towards water, coal and ash (in that sequence) on the inbound track and sand on the outbound. Basically, start small and upgrade as appropriate as my operational plan increases traffic. So I would think the bulbs would be advantageous to keep the entire staging area from shutting down in the event of a short.
The lights on the control board will come on as the train passes over the Photo interrupter and shut off when the last car passes it. With using the rubber cement you will still be able to pull the interrupter out should it fail and at the same time it will be enough to hold it until you needed to remove it if ever they do tend to last a long time. It has a short pitched roof on the front ( turntable side ) and then it steps up to a longer pitched roof in the back. If the locomotive to be far too long, in the worst case the tender will stand outside of the round house.
However all other engines which are a bit longer as normal engines (or longer as planned for this specific roundhouse) must stand before a smoke jack.
Apparently I didn't use the right combination of words in the MRH search field either.


Shucks, 30" is the minimum mainline radius so certainly don't need the yard curved similarly. After turning (possibly with a stop over in the engine house) they exit on the outbound track and can run around to the head end of a newly assembled Westbound train. A single outbound track off of the turntable quickly split into two - outbound road power and outbound to the yard. So, I can't definitively answer the question of why the ash pit was placed where it was.
The engine was coaled using a bucket hoist coaling shed, a water tank or standpipe provided the water and cinders were dumped on top of a piece of sheet iron covering the ties. The facilities can be small like the fore mentioned bucket loader or extensive like the ones in Walthers Catalog. It would also facilitate knowing which staging track is the problem in the event of a short.
You just need the type photo interrupters that are designed to only require lighting from room light and are turned off when no train is over them and are exposed to the overhead lighting, Then as soon as the train passes over it cuts the light off the over head light and it turns the lighting on the detector board on. Since the exhausting smoke from the smokestack of a steam engine should not blow into the round house, then the locomotive must stand in front and outside of the roundhouse with its smoke stack - but only to long engines. I believe one of the blogs on here shows some very good branch type engine terminals in the comments. Now you would understand the need for more than one track, it depends on the work that was needed to be done. Also as was mentioned the engine may be coaled and watered on the way in or the way out depending on the work that was needed. The tender generally needed very little attention so it was in some cases sticking out of the round house doors. HO, 60's-70's era freight on the rails, no passenger, no steam, track centerline spacing flexible.
I found that pic just browsing images one day, but the website it was connected to appears to be MIA.You couldn't have shown a better example of what is wrong with too much static grass. I saw a prototype photo in which the roof structure was similar but reversed and it looked wierd. There are lots more reasons to do something or not to and there lies the interesting thing about maintaining the steam locomotive. The grass should be shorter under the trees, there should be more color variation, it just looks like yellow shag carpet.



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