I was once told that a horse that is very busy with its tongue is hyper intellegant and often the busy ones in the mouth are very full on on the ground, these are the hardest to cure.
The horses I ride, I put them in the bit and then put them to work on stuff that keeps their mind going. 3 Im no professional but when I start my horses I always would make them do some sort of ground work when introducing to the bit versus letting them sit and get bored as you said. Next thing I would try if he continues to throw is tongue over, if the bit is fitted properly, is a flash nose band. The following errors occurred with your submission Okay Message: Options Quote message in reply?
In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register. Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Do not, I repeat, do not use it anymore, or you run the risk not only of causing your horse pain, but of permanently ruining her mouth (or causing her to rear from the pressure--that curb can even break a jaw). Instead, if you are somehow able to find competent instruction, and a trainer who is willing to work with both your horse and you, that is the avenue I would take. 5 Oh, ant BTW, my neighbor never did this (Thank God) Quote: You slam them into the ground a couple times, and they won't soon forget that pain. 2 I was looking at different bits that were in barrel horse's mouths at a recent open speed show and was beyond amazed, I saw Mechanical Hacks with 10" shanks, the gag bit rope hack combos all with twisted wire mouth pieces, I even saw a few of the metal nose ones. Originally Posted by Eclipse295 View Post I was looking at different bits that were in barrel horse's mouths at a recent open speed show and was beyond amazed, I saw Mechanical Hacks with 10" shanks, the gag bit rope hack combos all with twisted wire mouth pieces, I even saw a few of the metal nose ones.
6 Please don't say ignorant, inaccurate, biased stuff like the above unless you know what you're talking about. Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post Please don't say ignorant, inaccurate, biased stuff like the above unless you know what you're talking about.
6 I don't disagree that there are a disproportionate number of heavy-handed yahoos in barrel racing that have absolutely no clue about proper bit selection.
From the saddle his neck is widest at the base (just in front of the withers) and becomes progressively narrower as you get closer to his ears.
From the side, his neck looks longish and relatively low rather than up in the air and short. His energy is self-perpetuating.  The power comes from behind, over his back, through his neck, and gets recycled back to his hind legs. If you’re not sure if “anything is possible” within the next step, ask for one of those transitions.
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Refunds are not available, however, you may apply your credit toward a future camp or private riding lessons anytime within the 2016 year. The subject I want to touch upon today is finding the balance between pressure and kindness. To lose sight for an instant that a horse is a prey animal and things eat him is to lose sight of all that is the horse.
You make the request as kindly as possible, but your horse decides how firm becomes necessary. Pat Parelli often says horses must have been husbands in a prior life because they can’t stand to be nagged!
Hey Everybody – As we wrap up a winter of play mostly indoors with our horses, many have moved to the bridle or are thinking of it. I would strongly recommend letting a knowledgeable trainer who is compatible with your horsemanship goals and ideals help you decide on a bit for your horse, but here are some basic guidelines. Has your horse ridden in bits, but it will be the first bit you have used in your own horsemanship journey?
Are you still working on control, whether it be general speed and direction control or control of the specific zones of the horse?
In super simple terms, in the halter, hackamore and snaffle bit we are teaching gross motor skills, foundation, and CONTROL.
Now, with that understood, CONTACT is the beginning of vertical flexion and begins the understanding that your horse can trust you enough to yield to two reins.
Curb bits are any bit in which the reins attach to a shank that is affixed below the ring or piece of the bit to which the mouthpiece is attached irregardless of the type of mouthpiece. Mouthpieces are either solid and have no one side action or have some sort of barrel port or ball in the center to allow one side action without collapsing the mouthpiece in the horse’s mouth.
At no point should any contraption of any kind be necessary to keep your horse’s mouth closed.
This is a very brief overview of what can become a very involved topic, but hopefully it will help you assess where you and your horse are and where you may be ready to go. Please enjoy this 3 minute video of a 700 horse herd being driven down mainstreet of a small town. Beyond the fact that this is just a beautiful spectacle and I want to figure out how to make sound track of their hooves my ringtone, there is so much to be learned here. If you’ve been stuck in a level – especially 2 – for more than a couple months, I would suggest taking a real serious look at your circle game both online and mounted, and if you are playing in Level 3, then by all means at Liberty in a round corral. When as a leader you begin to realize how natural a state of followership this is for your horse, how deeply necessary it is to his nature, and how he craves the leader that can let him get here, you will be on to path to your dreams – and so will your horse. Today Sharon, Sharon, Shelly and Terri braved the chilly temps to improve their tool and games skills with 2 Star Junior Parelli Professional Todd Johnson at the Horseless Games Workshop at The JBIT Ranch. We learned skills for the Carrot Stick, that pesky Savvy String, our halters, 22′ lines and then put it all together with Conga Horses where we simulated all 7 Games.

Despite highs only around 30, horses, participants and auditors turned out for fun and learning with 2* Junior Parelli Professional Todd Johnson at the Horsenalities Strategies Workshop at The JBIT Ranch. We learned ways to read the feedback our horses are constantly giving us and explored lots of new strategies for where to be, when to be, why to be, what to do when we get there and when to stop doing what we’re doing. On Nov 12, 2011 6 riders converged on The JBIT Ranch for a Freestyle on the Trail Workshop taught by 2 star junior Parelli Professional Todd Johnson. The workshop, which was 3 hours in length, began on the ground and focused on how to use not only man made, but the natural obstacles a trail provides to create a warm up that more realistically simulates for your horse the type and nature of situations he or she will face on a trail ride. However, he was started by someone who does do this as a living and I know they did just tack him up and let him stand for the entire day for about the first week and he is a very busy minded horse that gets bored pretty easily so very well could have been where this habit formed. I see many (sorry, but mostly western) riders with snaffles that are way too low in the mouth. She tries to bite him when we ride together & once, she ran him into a tree to get him off her back. But if your horse, let’s say, is crooked and pops his shoulder out, the energy is going to go diagonally across his body. Todd and Barbara Johnson feel blessed to be able to blend a love of horses and a passion for sharing into a rewarding lifestyle that puts relationships and foundation first. Nestled on 128 acres in the northern Shenandoah Valley of Virginia in a quaint portion of Clarke County called Berryville, The JBIT Ranch is surrounded by 1000’s of acres of unspoiled countryside with access to nearly a thousand acres of trails direct from the barn. That would make sense to me anyway because USUALLY once he starts working and get his mind somewhere else he kind of leaves it alone but if you stop and stand or really arent doing enough work to keep his mind with the rider than that's when he starts playing with it and gets the tongue over. A properly adjusted snaffle (and one that is not too WIDE) isn't easy to get a tongue over.
The proactive among us have learned what important tasks in life need to be carried out regularly and consistently to keep from becoming pressure situations. Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum.
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Her requests are often given almost too subtly for us to see, but they are not optional, and if they are not followed promptly, they will rapidly escalate to something you WILL see and to any level necessary to get the required response.

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