I was a Christian recently enough to remember what it felt like to really believe the Creator of the universe talked to me, to really believe I would go to heaven and unbelievers would go to hell, to really believe that prayer made a difference. Supposedly, my parents really believe that I am going to hell now that I’m an atheist. This is not a post for attacking Christian beliefs or promoting atheistic views.  This is a post about understanding.
If you really believed some of the people you love dearly were going to spend an eternity in hell, wouldn’t that motivate you to try harder to save them?
Let’s say we all lived in Poland at the start of World War II and you got word that soon, the Nazis were going to invade the town where several of your friends and family lived.
But this is not what Christians do for their friends and family who they really believe are on the verge of falling into eternal torture, even though they say they really believe this, and even though they feel they really believe this. As best we can tell, humans always act so as to fulfill the strongest of their current desires, given their beliefs. I’ve wondered similarly about pro-lifers – if they really believe that abortion is murder, why do so many of them choose to protest peacefully and non-violently? But to get back to your point, Luke, I think what you’re pointing out is a fact of human nature itself. And yet, they don’t seem very upset by this … they don’t seem upset that their beloved son will be tortured forever in hell. I wonder what it means to demand consistency from people who subscribe to a (supposedly) delusional and immoral set of beliefs?
I agree with other comments here that there are internally legitimate explanations for Christian behaviour in regards to the fact many of the people with whom they associate will burn forever.
Alex: Your formulation makes the situation much worse, because there is something that can be done to prevent Luke’s presumed eternal future of torture. But if you want to consider the historical analogy more closely then note that some Jews did stay in Germany when they could have left, knowing that the Nazis were doing increasingly bad things. Well, when I was a christian I always felt super guilty about not witnessing to my friends more. Are you bothered people respect your choice and accept your destiny, even if they don’t agree with it and don’t like it? In order to be happy with people in hell, you have to either surrender your mind, or surrender your heart.  I think people in Christianity do a little of both.
Even when I was a believer, what disturbed me the most, was not the threat of hell, but the idea that humanity could be so cold to the suffereing of others in hell. I’d say your parents are just having a natural manifestation of what happens when you accept insanity into your life. I believe it because your parents believe in the power of God that they have peace with your decision. It is always interesting to me when people attack a thing because they believe that thing does not exist. Why exhaust so much effort to prove that something does not exist when your time would be so much better spent promoting a positive.
You attempt at establishing a premise by the statement above is very caddy and not a strong representation of a quality character. I’m curious why you capitalized, in your post, the word Christians and not the word atheist. You have lost your faith because of some serious pain of the flesh or devil driven rebellion. I wear a seatbelt because it’s the law and the one time I didn’t, I got an 80$ ticket!
I get really really upset when I think about those I love not being in the same place I am when eternity comes, but at the same time, I have to understand that people make their choices, and yet, at the same time God chooses His own.
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Anyway, I guess I was just hoping to give you some insight as to why it seems like alot of christians don’t care. The answer may be your parents know that in Heaven they won’t miss you anyway, neither regret you being fried on eternal fire, as there are no unpleasant feelings in Heaven. Once my mom (quite devout Catholic) told me she thought she would go to Hell because she had brought up an atheist. I suppose it’s a problem of the mysterious relation between religious belief and practice.
As for the beliefs, I think some smart philosopher should go back to the question of meaningfulness of religious discourse, which (the question) reportedly died a quiet death together with empirical verificationism. I think it’s first important to keep in mind that there are various views on hell, not just the eternal torment theory. Also, many Christians like myself have tried to reach out to atheists many times but each time we are spat in the face or ignored. You should expect an atheist to be open-minded and ready to change his or her view under the force of the argument, but you can’t expect him or her not to think Christian beliefs are ridiculous. I understand that you are essentially saying that christians, and other theists, are lying to themselves. This is another example of clear thinking and reasoning within observable facts are anathema to religion so they discourage it in others and do not permit it in their own lives.
When he ascended into Heaven he ran out of air to breath at around 100000 feet, so he died again.
You try to practice what you preach, to demonstrate that being a Christian is a better way to live (pretty much impossible to do well, Jesus set a ridiculous standard, but at least some of us do try), you give them information, you answer questions if they have them, you don’t make an ass out of yourself, etc. For me, death is the inevitable consequence of an organic body, so relatively neutral as events go, but conscious life and experience is truly special. Well, I seem to have had the misfortune of running into several Christians who seem to fervently want to save me.
I know that they actually are worried about my salvation, but I can’t relieve their anxiety. Even worse are the Christians who are worried that I don’t have a personal relationship with Jesus, so I am apparently rudderless and doomed to suffer in this life. I don’t know about you, but if I believed that at some point my family would be taken from their homes and killed, even if the odds of it happening soon are pretty slim, I would get my family out of that situation as soon as fucking possible. Mark: It is always interesting to me when people attack a thing because they believe that thing does not exist.
On yaz? bir is yerinde hangi pozisyonda degerlendirilmeniz gerektigini anlatan ve bu ise saglayacag?n?z yarar? gostermenizi saglayan ayn? zamanda neden bu pozisyonda yer alman?z gerektigini gosteren bir yaz?d?r.
Bu bolumde hangi pozisyonda gorev almak istediginizi, neden isverenin sizi is gorusmesine cag?rmas? gerektigine deginin. Yaz?n?z, neden bu onyaz?y? yazd?g?n?za dair bilgi icermeli. Is ilan? icin hangi pozisyona neden basvurmaya karar verdiginizi anlat?n.


Insan Kaynaklar? sayfan?zda yay?nlanan “Musteri Iliskileri Direktoru” ilan?n?z ilgimi cekti. ABC sirketinde “ Musteri Iliskileri Sorumlusu” olarak yapt?g?m pazar analizleri ile yeni musteriler kazand?rarak ve musteri memnuniyetinihedeflerin uzerine c?kararak, sirketimin karl?l?g?n? onemli olcude artt?rd?m.
Bugune kadar cal?st?g?m sirketlerde arast?rmac?, yeniliklere uyum saglayarak, sirketlerimin daha etkin bir yap?ya kavusmas?n? saglad?m.
Mulakata kat?larak tan?smay? ve isin becerilerime uygunlugu hakk?nda konusmay? cok isterim. Ekstra bilgi isterseniz iletisim bilgilerimden banaulasabilirsiniz.
Bu onyaz? is ilan?ndaki ozelliklerle uyumlu oldugunuzu vurgulayan, islevsel bir onyaz? turudur. Insan Kaynaklar? sayfan?zda yay?nlanan “Pazarlama ve Sat?s Sorumlusu” pozisyonunuzla ilgileniyorum. Uc y?l halkla iliskiler asistan? olarak cal?st?g?m donemde MS Office ekipmanlar?ndan Excel, Power Point, Word uygulamalar?n? yogun olarakkulland?m.
Kategoriler: On Yaz? Tags: is basvurusu on yaz? ornegi,kapak yaz?s?,kapak yaz?s? ornekleri,on yaz?,on yaz? ornekleri,On Yaz? Yazmak Neden Onemlidir? At Star Wars Celebration VI, I rushed into a screening of the season five premiere of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Then at Baltimore Comic Con, my boyfriend was introducing me to another male creator - the guy said hello, looked at my Avengers t-shirt, and asked if my boyfriend made me wear it.
Along that line, female cosplayers have had to put up with a few ridiculous situations in the past month.
Once you've digested that  rant and the usage of the word "yer", take a look at the comments. Harris isn't calling out all women cosplayers, but I feel like he's saying the majority of cosplayers are fakers.
I know people - men and women - who have dressed up as characters they didn't know inside and out so that they could participate in a group cosplay.
And it would be bad enough if this was just about cosplayers in general, but no - he targets women in the tackiest possible fashion.
The Nazis were going take everybody off to concentration camps in chains, and possibly kill them.
Would you just mention this to your friends and family in passing, and send them the occasional tract with information on the threat of the Nazis?
Maybe you would drive out there and try to convince them of the threat until you were blue in the face. But I very much doubt that Christians do not have a strong desire to save their spouses, their children, and their best friends from eternal agony. One way to deal with this may be to adopt the deontological stance of considering certain actions intrinsically evil (as in Catholicism), but in that case you can’t justify the death penalty or even basic stuff like self-defense. I really believed that Jesus could see me masturbate, but the urge was so overwhelming I just blocked Jesus out of my head and apologized later. I was at church (I still go to church when I’m back at home, to avoid arguments with my parents), and after the service I was milling about in the foyer and came across my uncle talking to another fellow in the church. We could point out the same thing in atheists as well – why don’t you live every moment of your life knowing that you will die?
I think a lot depends on whether there is a specific date or whether it’s just something vaguely in the future and not expected to happen tomorrow.
They (I assume) believe that you will go to hell if you’re still an atheist when you die.
However, meditation upon the problem of hell will, I think, force the Christian to certain conclusions.
Your formulation makes the situation much worse, because there is something that can be done to prevent Luke’s presumed eternal future of torture. If he were, say, a personal friend of Adolf Hitler, don’t you think he would have to do everything in his power to change Hitler’s mind about invading Poland?
The thing I’ve changed is to make it so that even if you do nothing your friends might still be safe because the Nazis might change their mind.
I can understand if they think there is a chance that thier loved one is going to hell but what about the loved ones whom they are sure are Christians. I felt tremendous pressure to witness to my friends, but deep down I also felt so silly, like I was trying to witness for fairies or something (I didn’t understand this until later, but that was the sillyness I felt). You don’t have the ability to physically remove them, stop the invasion or anything else. Since they think that talking to their ceiling will achieve results at some point down the road, this relieves them of at least some of the responsibility that they may feel. I assured her she did her Catholic best and, as far as I know, eternal damnation is not a relevant punishment for that, I even offered consulting a priest, but she wasn’t interested. I think that in researching religion we should earn an approach which would be more, say, functionalist, or behaviourist.
But as I understand the bible hell isn’t this place of whips and Iron Maidens where demons get to torture you and those up in heaven get to roast marshmallows over the flames of hell. However, the point of view that I take (and others have said this as well) is that there is not always a great deal you can do.
Do supposed Christians really believe that they can pray their way through a problem or get someone saved just by praying? Many people, myself included, view certain religious beliefs as harmful influences to a person and community. Bahsettigim arast?rmac? kisiligim, yenilikci yap?m ve bugune kadar gosterdigim performans ve tecrubem ile sirketiniz icin de son derece yararl? olacag?ma inan?yorum. Ozgecmisimin, egitimimin veyeteneklerimin isin ozelliklerine ve sirketiniz bak?s ac?s?na uygun oldugunu dusunuyorum. Mulakata kat?larak is ve isin becerilerime uygunlugu hakk?nda detayl? konusmay? cok isterim. I was covering the red carpet and sent my boyfriend in early and asked him to save me a seat.
I know male geeks have their own stereotypes to deal with, but I don't think they are made to feel unwelcome or excluded on a regular basis. And let’s say this information came from a very reliable source, so that you really believed this was going to happen.
Perhaps that is depression and insanity, perhaps abandonment of Christainty coupled with an external view whereby one sees through internal explanations and into the madness that is the doctrine of hell, or perahps to a reconceptualization of the fate of unbelievers (say, annihilationism, or universalism).
I guess I reasoned that the creator of the universe sees so many more appaling things, and that he would forgive me, but my grandpa…. Some will argue that not being able to see a friend anymore for several years or decades is sad and worth being upset over but I feel if Christians truly felt they knew their relative was in the most blissfull place possible, that it would be a more joyous type of mourning. I was always a mixture of intense anxiety, worry (for my friends), and guilt (for not believing harder).
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As long as GOD keeps peaking in, your perfect world of unaccountability can not perfectly or completely exist. You surely understand love and know that it did not just appear without a divine intention. On the other occasion I asked her if she believed her Protestant friends would go to Hell, and she said no. Maybe religious phenomena should be examined along with similar nonreligious phenomena with no regard for the alleged inspiration from the beliefs? It is basically impossible, and most definitely immoral to MAKE someone believe something, so your options are limited.
So it is in the same interest that Christians try to convert atheists that atheists try to convert Christians. Bu nedenle olabildigince olumlu izleminler yaratmak icin insanlar ozel yasamlar?nda ve is yasamlar?nda cesitli at?l?mlar yaparlar. Bu sorular? cevaplayarak oncelikle ak?llar?nda yer edinir ve sizi degerlendirebileceklerine onlar? inand?r?rs?n?z. That seat ended up being beside a guy who looked at the Rebel Alliance tattoo on my shoulder and asked if I got it because of my boyfriend. A lot of us take pride in what we do and looking at that feed will make you smile - which you probably need after reading the above. Sure they would be sad that they would not see their loved one for a good while but the fact that their loved one is in the most blissfull place imaginable would overcome the feelings of sadness to a great degree. Many atheists and many Christians speak with (even in their writing) a recognizable hatred. Like speak about how gracious God is to us and show our faith by abstaining where we should. God is a loving God now could heaven REALLY be that great of a place if for all eternity you heard the cries of your loved ones and strangers pleading for mercy. If you’ve tried your best, why waste time crying over something that’s out of your hands?
I believe that everyone makes their own paths in life and that consequences or rewards in life are results of the choices that we made. Atheist attacks on Christianity are often legitimate as well, so it seems to me that a member of a worldwide organization of vast power and significance should respond to these criticisms. Mesela ozel yasant?n?zda biriyle tan?st?g?n?z ilk anda elini s?kman?z ve gulumsemeniz son derece onemlidir. It seems that there are still enough people whose knee jerk reaction to meeting a geek girl is to question her "cred." I experienced a couple of instances this summer that speak to that. If anyone is cosplaying a character just because he or she likes the outfit design, that doesn't matter either.
I know if I were in that situation, then I would do some pretty drastic things to save my friends and family.
They focus on the wrong thing, most of the time, mourning the death, rather than celebrating the life.
If you want to be really extreme, you could say this comic encourages people to stop girls who are wearing Star Wars shirts and quiz them about the movies to ensure they've earned the right to wear it.
She was wearing a Black Cat costume that revealed cleavage, and the male interviewer asked her to spank him and asked what her cup size was.
It'd be cool if I could carry on without being questioned or having people think I'm doing it for the boys.
So why aren’t we rushing around to get everything done, continually updating our wills, always making sure that funeral plans are arranged, etc.?
They can understand the certain future and take action, or deny it exists and (presumably) regret their choice later. There are also those extremists…the ones who stand on a street corner shouting the end is nigh, repent or be damned forever! When presented with information about heaven and hell I am opened minded enough to listen to what the person has to say but that doesn’t mean that I have to change my view on the subject. Kap?dan girdigi anda bir kisi hakk?nda olusan fikriniz ayn? sekilde on yaz? icinde gecerlidir. Then, cosplayer Molly McIsaac posted about how people wearing costumes doesn't mean you can treat them like pieces of walking meat. Churches post signs about fundraisers they are having and post on their signs when services are. Also to the Christians who will read this in the future if you truly trusted in your higher power the guilt you experienced for not proselytizing wouldn’t be there.
It kills me at funerals when people say, “Oh at least they are in Heaven now and are not hurting anymore. On yaz?n?n ilk cumleleri sizin ile ilgili gorusun buyuk k?sm?n? belirler ve CV incelenmesini saglar ya da sizinle cal?sma isteginin bir kenara konulmas?na neden olur. Even after I had to inform him which characters the voice actors on stage were, he made comments as we were leaving about how it was nice for me to come to the convention for my boyfriend. And finally, just over the weekend, there was arguing about a faux nerd girl meme that used the word "whore." Intense discussion surrounded all of these posts - from all sides. I looked at him and in a not polite tone of voice said, "Actually, he's here because of me. We are hoping to fill the Pollack gallery with quilts from Rebeccas's Reel and Beach Plum guild members.See the attached information sheeti»?Modern QuiltsRRQ has started a new small group as of September 2014.
I can’t remember the verse if you email me I can try to find it but in Revelations it says something along the lines of the saved will prance upon the ashes of those burnt up. The group is called a a€?modern quilt groupa€? and has a limited number of spaces for individuals to attend the classes that meet once a month on a Sunday afternoon. By knowing Schindler or someone who’s on he list saying hey I know someone let me bring them here so they can ask you for a spot on the list. I have a thicker skin now, but back then, it wouldn't have taken much to discourage me from playing dress up at conventions. The class helps the quilter develop skills related to making a variety of blocks to be assembled in a modern manner using alternate grid theory. Not thinking about hell helps them live a normal life in the same way that not thinking about death helps us do the same.
The colors and patterns in the fabrics represent the individual quiltera€™s modern aesthetic. The participants need to be able to sew a quarter inch straight seam and be willing to try something different than traditional piecing and assembling techniques. The quilt requirement is that each member makes a quilt inspired by one of the books the group has read.




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