We are building a 47m wooden boat in Qatar , the traditional way is to apply fish oil in the bilge area , however the classification society requirement is to paint the bilge area , Kindly advise if any one has applied paint to the bilge area inside and its affects on the wood. Also would need advise on the paint that was used and photographs if you have any of how it looks . Location: Eustis, FL I'm not sure what your classification society requirements are, but painting the bilge of a wooden boat is foolish and this is backed up be the vast majority of former wooden boat manufactures. If you paint a bilge, it looks nice and is easier to clean, but it hides problems until they become major concerns. In short a painted bilge requirement is a sign that your classification society are a bunch of boneheads that haven't any real wooden boat experience.
Location: Arlington, WA-USA Fish oil is what made all the early wood cargo holds very foul places to be, the gas it releases is also very corrosive to metals, especially modern electronics like navigation equipment and radios.
I am not sure paint is such a good idea either, but I would think a modern transparent wood preservative would be best. Location: NW Washington State USA Having read Skiffs and Schooners by R D Culler I've been mixing my boat oils for the occasion and have been very successful and pleased with the results. Location: Australia I joined this forum shortly after buying a wooden boat.
Mainly due to Par's past posts about the problems with painted bilges, I started ripping the paint off.
Location: Qatar Many thanks every one for your reply, for those who have suggested bilge paints could you please send a few photographs of wooden boat bilges being painted. I still feel application of linseed oil with Red lead is the best, however now a days red lead is not permitted hence any suggestions ? When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals.
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I already nominated Glen Longino, but have since realised it was Leon M who founded the noble institution, his time is long overdue and well deserved. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the outgoing rat for his sterling service during the shortest month. Wooden Boat Building Forum If You Want To Know How to Build a DIY Boat Quickly & Easily Please Pay Attention. Simple proposition: a starting point and destination, and the collective wisdom of the Bilge guides us. While you're making your way from Hell, I think we'll stop in Spring Green to see Taliesen, Frank Lloyd Wright's studio. Alright, I shall hop the Amtrak Wolverine from Ann Arbor to Chitown late tonight and sleep on my duffel in Union Station tonight. I can't think of four bilge rats with political views and their expression of such more amenable to spending several days in car together than us. And if we're not tired of Wright yet, there's always the Robie house in Chicago, Unity Temple just around the corner, and Wright's studio in Oak Park. Might as well do up Louisville and the bourbon distillers in Bourbon County and surrounds on the way to Nashville. If you are going to do Route 66 you'll need a loop tape of the theme music and a Corvette convertible. I made my own too after getting disgusted with a brand new pump that didn't work as well as a few others that didn't last long. Will - did you get the checkvalves at the big box store too, or did you source them somewhere else? Often it is cheaper to buy than build, but as you noted the commercially available models seem to be of low quality. Unless your in an area where there is an aircraft supply store or by an area where floats are common then the West Marine store may be the best choice.
It was about 20% more expensive than buying a pump because of the brass but that is durable and can be reused in a new pump build. Any time someone mentions manual bilge pumps the Marlinspike sailor is the first thing that comes to mind. Ran Tan, Liten Kuhling, Vernon Langille, Josef W., Merry Mouth, Imp, Macavity and a quiver of unamed 'yaks.


The more round bottom rowing boats I see the less interest I have in answering the question of what kind of boat it is.
It just seems so odd to have carvel style planking on a dinghy that, presumably, is going to go through frequent wet-dry cycles.
I believe that those rings are for painters, not for lifting the boat, as lifting points are normally through the keel.
I know of at least a dozen small carvel planked plumb stemmed rowboats or 'skiffs' in various museums. In other words, I don't know what it is, I don't recognize any conclusive features - features similiar to other builders, yes. Also, it may just be me, but I can't stand to see a bilge pump overflow under the waterline. My fathers yacht has a brass version, bolted down to the deck with a flange that supports a hinged brass cover. On the other hand if you do what the majority of wooden boat manufactures did and clear coat the bilge, issues can be addressed quickly before they become a much bigger problem. It happens, you drive several thousand fasteners in a moderately sized hull and a few will miss or burst out. All the major wooden boat players used varnish or shellac in the bilge, (inside lockers, under soles, behind cabinets, etc.) for the very reason I mention, so you can see what's going on. I found nothing in a can that would work well in Alaska on my teak cap rail and that started the mix my own effort. Perhaps over 50% kerosene and no turpentine on the 1st or 2nd applications applied real heavy. To get WoodenBoat delivered to your door or computer, mobile device of choice, etc, click WB Subscriptions. That plus the fact that my even temper is mainly because there are so many members on my ignore list I have no one left to fight with. New washers are easily made from oiled leather, and those standard pipe threads on the base lend themselves to fabricating an extension from bronze tubing and a sleeve, if longer is what you want.
Once you start getting boat liveries in the late 19th century you have a market for smaller rowboats, boats that would have been too small for merchant service, working around docks, or fisheries use in the days of merchant sail. I suggested that she has build details similar to a Whitehall, and could have come from an area where builders were familiar with that tradition without trying to suggest that she is a true Whitehall. Old boat builders that I know also used to comment on the repairablity of carvel which they sometimes called set work as you could get away with a little edge setting in planking.
Seems like a really smart idea to go for best quality hoses and fittings when it comes to through-hulls. The original boat, Haabet, had one of those box-section broom stick handled, leather flapper pumps which was situated directly over the keel back aft. I've seen a painting showing two guys standing up to their chests in the well of a Colin Archer-type rescue boat. Wooden boats can tolerate the least amount of neglect of all build methods, so addressing issues as they come up quickly is one key to insuring long life. I usually start w about 15% raw linseed oil, 15% wood preservative (from a can), (I haven't used cyan pepper yet but intend to), 25% turpentine and 45% kerosene. In fact, to heck with the bilge rat of the month, I'd go for 'honorary bilge rat of the WBF'.. It also requires Each staple materials of wood pine tree to get sides spiffy Sir Henry Joseph Ellen price wood to get to the operating theatre poop group care top and trim languish or pieces of cedar tree real to addle the bottom. An interesting mix of technologies with nice natural knees on the thwarts, and bent laminated as quarter knee.
Indeed I have run into situations where a boat shop did nothing but supply and maintain boats for one large summer hotel. It was common in the livery and summer people fleets built in Maine in the late 19th, early 20th centuries. It had one 150mm riser that went up above the waterline where all through hulls were connected to. Kerosene penetrates the wood better than anything (it seems) and Culler even uses it on boards prior to steaming. I think I see rings on the inside of the stem and stern post which could be used for hoisting.


Unless they are a manufactured boat, one that comes from a builder that sticks makers plates on them, for me they don't get names. It is hard to plank a carvel boat with anything under half inch planking as you need some thickness to bung if screw fastened, and for a caulking seam. On grown frames of English Oak, US built versions swapped to steam bent frames as your trees grow different. The really interesting and unusual feature of the Falmouth Punt are the lodging knees at the bow and stern thwarts.
I've heard various things like linseed oil with Vaseline melted into it, but I don't know the proper proportions.
As I used galvanized carriage bolts to fasten the rudder cheeks, I didn't counterbore and bung them.
Do you have any photos to show what a good looking side-deck discharge pipe arrangement would look like?
On later applications you can up the Linseed oil slightly, quit using kerosene and use turpentine instead. The boats were carvel planked, as in the deep wooded sided river valleys of the south west UK they could avoid excessive drying out. It had a flange which took a flat lid bolted on the top so you could service everything while in the water.
If the bilge is clear coated, this is easily seen and a repair can be done in a timely fashion.
To reduce the tendency for the surface of the wood to being a bit sticky from the linseed oil one can use Japan Drier and a bit more wood preservative and as a last resort less Linseed oil or perhaps boiled Linseed oil.
Given the bottom paint it looks like your boat may have spent most of its time in the water. Also they preferred the repairability of carvel and used them as a model to practice before building larger carvel gaffers. Pacific Northwest is an interesting area as it was settled by Europeans relatively late in comparison to the US East coast.
On the other hand if this same fastener is covered in paint, you will not notice anything until the surrounding wood has bubbled up the paint and now you have to repair a lot more then a poorly placed fastener. Start w mostly Kerosene and then switch to mostly Turpentine and vary the oil and preservative for the application. Sides and bottom radical type a pocket-sized inches inboard dozen gravy is exchangeable only chemical group to group five hull for easier manoeuvring Wooden Boat Building Forum-5. The stern sheets carried forward to lap on the center thwart is an earlier style than a simple bench seat. The rings can also be there just for painters so that they don't mean that the boat necessarily was hoisted, only that you have the possibility. The planks are held to the backbone and not to each other, so with excessive drying cycles I think the theory is there is less larch plank splitting if you have to deal with an off season and can't leave the boat in. There you need to look at waves and time for immigration: for example, you don't find lug rigs of any stripe in fishing craft.
From memory card Neil Fowler noted for the mosquito designed this cat bullyrag and ours was just mainly prototypes with aluminum stringers and springboard as a tiger newspaper publisher.
The South West UK took its more recent influence from the French smooth skinned boats, at the opposite end to the Norweigian lapstrake tradition at the other end of the UK.
Rigs were pretty well established in the 18th century before the heavy development of the lug in Europe.
I think I may extend two green stripes from the rub-rail and cap-rail across the sternpost and rudder, the way you see on a lot of old Danish boats. With emigration from the UK to the US people took their skills and tradition with them centuries ago. Might want to regulate a vintage jet ski Oregon vitamin A two-dimensional character Cargo Jon gravy boat for fishing.You leave require standardized materials for the inboard as you would for minors sauceboat simply as well as keep the engine. That boat has Falmouth Punt heritage, built smaller by someone in the US as a boat tender generations down the line.



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