For Gabrielle's maiden voyage I took my friend, Captain Scotty (of xsboats), and his son, Nat, fishing.
I thought that the 11' 11" LOA was originally a way of getting around registration requirements. In regards to performance under power, the boat suffered somewhat in that the centerboard slot is wide and open right now as it is waiting for a centerboard cartridge so there was a bunch of water sloshing up into the centerboard slot and getting my posterior wet. The steering under power took some getting used to as it was quite squirrelly and I soon learned to make smaller corrections.
I think you are doing the right thing Ken with regards rudder situation, i think it has always been the best compromise, but you can play with your twin orange racing foils next winter. I've had a look but couldn't find a good answer; about how long would it take a competent (professional) woodworker to build SCAMP? Because I was cutting and building two simultaneously on the Boat Palace floor, side by side, it may have speeded things a bit but it made it hard to judge accurate build time for just one hull. Some of the conditions I have sailed the Red Scamp in would give pause to most boats,even larger ones. I selected Scamp because all of the reasons that make her a safe, maneuverable and practical day sailor and cruiser means she is a solid choice for instructional purposes. Utilizing Scamp as my ride and lead boat will allow me to move quickly between boats (she can just about be turned around in her own length) and to maneuver in close around docks.
Tom it will be great to get your input from hands on sailing during the Straits of Mackinaw Academy.
With a polytarp sail that had done a considerable mileage, and which would benefit from a recut as a consequence of having been sailed very hard in some quite extreme conditions.
She was not particularly sensitive to fore and aft trim as long as she was not stern down, but did benefit from accurate control of heel, being fastest at about 10 deg of heel. In very light conditions she sails extremely well, sailing away from a lot of much bigger boats on all points of sail. Someone else who has plans will have to answer that one, as I never got the building instructions or materials list for the SCA Scamp at 11'11". About her towing ability, she is just a bigger Tender Behind and Sherpa, both of which tow extremely well as dinghys for bigger boats. Dsimonson, not sure if the Skoda (vw) Yeti is availiable over there, but its a good compact little workhorse. We have an exciting announcement today: Howard's exact SCAMP expedition plans will be revealed for the first time in a keynote speech by designer John Welsford during the Saturday, July 18 Pocket Yacht Palooza, at the Northwest Maritime Center in Port Townsend.
Please click the link below to read full details--and if you're anywhere near Port Townsend in mid-July, don't miss this exciting presentation. I have seen that this announcement was being made in numerous locations but can't find what Howard is planning to do, any news? In late December or early January, summertime in the South, Howard will set sail from Punta Del Arenas in a highly modified SCAMP heading out through the channels and fiords of Chiles coast, his intention to explore the least hospitable and least populated coastline on the planet.
This will be an extraordinary voyage, very risky, but do remember that he's been there before.
The boat will have cameras aboard, and we'll be videoing the preparatory work including some test sailing, and some of the background but thats all being saved for later. In the meantime, there will be updates, but bear in mind that there is no cellphone, no internet, no vhf, in that area so there won't be much in the way of news until later. We will uncrate the boat (fingers crossed she will survive the shipping to such a remote place in one piece) and figure out where to launch. My very brief previous experience in Punta Arenas (I spent two days there) has me recalling there is not much in the way of protection for small boats so I plan to stage further south near Fuerte Bulnes toward Cape Froward home of the infamous Panteniero or cemetery wind (purportedly it rages hard enough to blow headstones out of the ground).
There is a thread about developing the boat on the Small Craft Advisor Forum titled Blue Water Mods For SCAMP. Thread: The season is pretty much over - Now its time for winter projects - What are yours? All my canoes are on their racks in the garage, the Rushton pulling boat is hanging from the garage ceiling and the little fishing boat is all covered and ready for winter. We are constructing an Argie 15 sailing dinghy, tying a ton of flies, and doing a few home improvements. 25' Chebacco either plywood or glued-lap strake, winter to be spent prepping work-space (finishing old english sportscar hopefully) lofting in spring.
Just bought an old house on short sale, so first projects are in there, plus converting the 2-car garage + shed into a proper shop space. O and I have to make a jewelry box for my daughter for Christmas, and a coffee table for me.
I will cover the boat in about a week, but then we will continue on with wiring, new headliner, reinstalling the interior, and some more pieces to refinish at the shop.
Joel BergenJune 30, 2012 at 6:45 PMHey Julie, it was a real treat meeting both of you at the festival. Ok I just read the latest post on the other board and is seems that they have managed to get some movement and appear to be working towards a channel.
ETA - anybody have a guess at how heavy an anchor one would have to paddle out to pull 500 pounds of boat with about 200 pounds of gear on it through the mud with a flat graphite coated bottom? Well, Woodcutter is a Sailor's sailor, but Krunch is fairly new to the game and they outlasted several other experienced crews and proven boats.
Well the SPOT is moving, and I sure hope it is in Scamp and not in Andrew's pocket as he rides out in a rescue boat.
Support boats really increase the costs and complexity of these types of events, but when small open boats capsize or get stuck, it is really nice to not be out on your own! It looks like Andrew's SPOT checked in at the Everglades welcome center in Flamingo, near as I can tell from my recliner here in Delaware. I had decided they were Trolls lurking under the bridge but your comparison is much better! Wanted to let people know we have some openings for Howard Rice's Small Craft Skills Academy that we are hosting here prior to Sail Oklahoma.
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[3] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[4] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.


Thanks, I have lurked for the last year but I felt the need to comment in a thread I have found incredibly useful that is getting mutilated by dribble that doesnt pertain to any benificial conversation about the main topic. I am fully aware that this reply in fact makes me a troll also and this will be the last response KMacDonald will get from me in the general forums. If there are particular members that bother you and you do not want to see their posts or receive Private Messages and Emails from them, then you can add these members to your 'Ignore List'. Bruce, in lust with a Scamp, waiting on plans for #179 to arrive, and for the measly sum that I paid I don't give a rats backside where the money trail leads so long as the esteemed Mr Welsford gets his share and ends up in the long term being recognised and rewarded appropriately for an awesome design job.
Just for the record, SCAMP was a custom design commission for Small Craft Advisor Magazine, the design fee was paid and they now own the design.
Howard Rice has no financial interest in the design either, and the Small Craft Skills Academies are an entirely separate venture, not related in any way to Small Craft Advisor Magazine or SCAMP other than that examples of SCAMP have been used for instruction purposes.
Howard did not receive any payment for his excellent help at the Port Townsend SCAMP Camp, but the North West School of Wooden Boatbuilding did cover some of the considerable costs I incurred in flying from New Zealand to Seattle and back, and while in the area I spent some time working at the school to go someway toward repaying them for their support. The book that we are collaborating on is not about SCAMP, and while the design may be mentioned it will only be in the context of the subject matter, and will not be the subject matter in itself. Mike and Jackie Monies have no financial interest in the design, but having built two and having found that the boat is very well suited to their uses, have been pleased to talk to interested people about their SCAMP and how it performs.
As for advertising, like any other commercial entity I am not allowed to advertise my product here so in common with other designers generally confine myself to answering questions asked by other forum members, but if someone with no commercial interest in a design or an event wishes to appraise members of whats happening, thats not advertising and our moderator will let it be. Tom Dunderdale has some nice designs and he recently posted a sketch of Seaboots 14, very much a SCAMP type design and quite a bit bigger. Don't give up on the Slug, I remember my excitement when the Mirror Offshore came out, we had the Daily Mirror delivered in those days, it used to be a so much better paper.
She's a Van De Stadt for crumms sake, that has got to trump some Kiwi with a sharp pencil (jesting John).
I am going at the speed that feels right at the time - and dictated by cash flow, work committments, health of self and slug. I hope you will take this as constructive criticism;the portion of the boat that isn't quite a deck or raised topsides(post 53) looks like an invitation to go swimming if you ever have any need to go forward. Reading your brief to John about what you want for your new boat, you echoed my recent brief to John exactly.
I'm about your age and this will be my final boat, and I'm very excited and cannot wait to start building my Pelegrin - the name of the new design.
To get WoodenBoat delivered to your door or computer, mobile device of choice, etc, click WB Subscriptions. The motor, as expected, was much more than the boat could use although with the throttle at a little less than one half it purred like a kitten (for an outboard) and we still made progress against a stiff current and wind.
Part of that problem is the result of having the motor forward in the inboard motorwell as it shortens the wheelbase somewhat on an already short boat. Not to drive everybody crazy, but I've decided to go with the standard SCAMP rudder for now with it mounted offset because of the motorwell. Any homebuilt boat under power needs to be licensed and titled in Florida but boats under 16 feet do not need to be inspected to receive a number, a decal and a title.
I have a little experience with epoxy so I don't see the learning curve being too hard for me in that respect either. I'm sure others have made this point, but SCAMP is way faster than it deserves to be if you go by looks or length.
I am now building Scamp hull #3 for use as the primary Academy work boat (with a refined work boat finish). For my tastes I like wooden boats and this factor weighed in on my selection for lead boat. So many sailors have registered and are bringing a very diverse range of boats from many current designers.
Seems like a great opportunity to step from one boat to the next and the next and compare at the moment in many situations from launching to self rescue.
Could somebody please tell me how many sheets of what thicknesses of plywood to order so I can at least get that ordered?
I built my two Scamps from prototype plans and the building and materials list were not included.
John will discuss modifications made by Howard to SCAMP #2, detail Howard's planned voyage route, and also introduce the producer and director of a feature-film documentary to be filmed before and during Howard's expedition. Three decades or so ago Howard Rice was the first man to round Cape Horn in a kayak so he knows what he's in for. Never having done such a thing before I wonder how it will all work out but have elected to film as much as I can no matter the circumstance I might find myself in. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else.
But really, you make your own luck and he's been working on a high latitudes voyage of exploration for a long time, and is as well researched and prepared as anyone I've ever seen. Having just struggled through a big learning curve to make mine, yours looks utterly professional. On the SCA board Jackie Monies mentioned that Andrew tried to tie some PDF's and flotation cushions to his feet to keep from sinking into the mud in an effort to get them off of the mud flat and into some water. Chuck over at Duckworks has set up a paypal page for anyone who wants to help with the effort. You can build a fantastically strong well sorted boat from plans for a very reasonable sum. Especially by someone who has already stated that they have no interest in SCAMP other than a facetious remark about making one for their 18 month old grandson and to belittle those that have built, want to build, or support and offer advise to those that do.
They receive no reward for this, or for promoting the Small Craft Skills Academy that is currently running at the lake near their home.
It does not completely fill the tank, though, and should be topped off with a bucket or something. Still has an open cuddy but since Tom has not completed the design he might well design her for you Dylan.
If you were to go with a main and Jib then I would rig this as a sliding Gunter with a fractional jib off the mast head.


The result of my discussion with John is that he is now designing an slightly bigger version of the Pilgrim, but with a cabin added. I do have John's initial sketches, but I will ask him to post a more final version of these sketches to wet the appetite!
I would add that fishing from that boat would also have to be fun so I guess SCAMP is officially a fishing boat, at least by my definition. Like many i am looking forward to the insertion of cassette keel.mast and sails and seeing her sailing. Pouring more throttle on gave us about another knot but the much greater decibels and cavitation were not worth the added speed. When my foils are finished I'll be able to add directional stability to make her track better. The motor will be pulled and moved forward and secured to give better trim for sailing and to allow a standard full length tiller.
I got to sail with John Welsford in the red SCAMP at Oklahoma and even with an inexperienced helmsman (me), we handily outdistanced many longer boats on a 4-mile windward leg. These include Michalak, Welsford, Ougthred, Storer and others, several Drascombes, custom small cruisers, trailer sailors, a cruising catamaran and many different kinds of open cruising boats both home built and commercially produced. I extended the invitation for him to join me in Punta Arenas where my boat will be shipped. The opportunity to sail with John on the Straits before I set off is a fantastic chance for two pals to have a memorable experience together. The footage will come back to the film makers studio and he will embark on producing a documentary of the voyage.
Should I run into problems I will leave the boat and return in the spring time for a winter voyage (the boat has a wood stove).
Also it's been mentioned that the deadline for crossing the finish has been extended so a DNF for SCAMP is not written in stone just yet. When discussing the problems of just how expensive mahogany and ocume plywoods are becoming, they told me they already supply Birch plywwod to the RNLI and they expect birch to take over completely for small boat building in future years. Isn't it possible to share some good positive discussion with like-minded people about a worthy little boat that we admire without someone thinking it's their duty to come in and smear the walls of the place? Depending on the rigging setup having the forward section (in front of the mast) as a hatch could be doable too.
This boat is nearly finished and I cannot wait for our summer (I live in Cape Town) to launch my Navigator. The little boat accommodated two large men and a boy with no problems but I do have to say no additional crew would have been welcome. An air-cooled 2HP Honda would be perfect for this boat as it could live on the transom and just be hosed off along with the boat and trailer – no flushing required.
I was, however, encouraged by how quiet the 4HP is at efficient hull speed and with the remote tank it has a very full day (and night) of motoring possible without having to refuel. I generally prefer to go solo as solo allows all opportunities to do what needs to be done quickly however John and I get along so smoothly that having him along will be nothing but pluses for both of us. I basically have three windows of opportunity to set sail to the south, January, May or if all goes left then next October. Have it hinged along one of the sides so it opens completely out of the way would allow you to pop up out of the front for anchor handling and even stepping onto dry land.
You might also experiment with the head of the reefing rod riding in a track or groove so as to slide down the mast as you fold it backwards. Part of the problem was that I had taken a Caledonia Yawl's worth of stuff on the little boat but we were well equipped for the day's adventure.
The four horse may do better when I'm solo and can stand at the aft edge of the cabin roof with one hand on the outboard tiller extension (especially after the extra wide centerboard slot is sealed up with either a plug or the centerboard cartridge).
I've never explored the Intercoastal Waterway and I think the SCAMP will be perfect for that especially with my ProTech Mantis sunshade to get me out of the sun.
Lucky me, I will have the opportunity to sail aboard all boats during the registration day boat check out process.
Being all thumbs with cameras I wonder but know the little training I am receiving should help. I'd be interested in material choice, how you attached windows, how you manage condensation in a single wall shelter. Acting as if you don't notice and don't care is like giving no reaction at all, and this just might stop a bully's behavior. Just depends on how well you have eaten in the past as to whether you would be able to fit it.
Nat got to get close up and friendly with a pelican (must have been that bluefish he was holding over the gunwale). She performed like the drift boats I have built while under oar power and I was pleased with how little throttle was needed on your 4hp motor to achieve optimal speed. For fishing around the nearby 312 Bridge near my landing I may go to an electric trolling motor but will probably keep the four horse for longer adventures in the SCAMP solo and for my Caledonia Yawl (although I much prefer sailing the CY and the CY needs crew to use the motor in its midship motor mount).
The SCAMP will be going slow enough to not cause the sunshade any problems with being deployed while underway (I hope). I'm happy to see the use of snaps also, you must be confident they will not corrode too much. The point was made, so move on and move out, and leave us Scamp builders and wannabe builders to share some joy.
And women really seem to dig it--that alone ought to make it worth a lot to husbands like me who have a hard time dragging their wives aboard.
There was a swing that Nat made good use of and I got to try out the oars while Captain Scotty took pictures. We enjoyed the opportunity to meet you and talk SCAMP and boats in general - our staff is energized!




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