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Location: Marshfield massachusetts usa designing a fast rowboat I live in New England (USA) and we have a growing sport of open water ocean rowing racing.
Location: Lake Michigan I don't claim to be an expert, but for speed, little to no rocker is good.
A race boat would have to be longer (the longer the better) and a bit wider (but not much wider).
Location: Cornwall, England Take a look at a gig, they don't come any faster or sweeter (but I'm biased, we've raced 'em in Cornwall for the past couple of hundred years! Location: Eustis, FL Build her light and put some foils on her, so you can spank the fleet. Location: Marshfield massachusetts usa Safewalrus, We have the gigs here too. Location: Marshfield massachusetts usa Terhohalme, Very interesting piece of work, I'd be interested to find out more about your boat. Location: Trondheim, NORWAY I think you could try minimum wetted surface, long waterline and optimize the Cp for your speed.
Location: Marshfield massachusetts usa Safewalrus, That Flashboat, VERY interesting can you point me to plans?
Length must be an important part of the speed equation,a long narrow boat will always be faster than a short wide one. 1 ) A fast rowboat will probably be as long as possible and because of its length will be able to have as narrower beam as permitted by the required displacement. Bow steering ,yes like you guys I am concerned about bows digging in and directing the issue. There must be a point where the trade off between wave making and wetted surface is at an optimum.. When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. At the Monaco Yacht Show 2011, Jongert Shipyard has brought in two orders for new motor yachts: a 44-metre MY and a 43-metre MY. Comment by sailho on Von'Widmann Designs… of our latest sea trials on the motor yacht Mystique, this was a total redesign project of the entire system. Comment by john on Yacht Charter aboard the Luxury BELLE AIMEE in BurmaIts been my all time dream to sail in Burma, whether on a yacht charter or a private boat, but a holiday on this superyacht in this location would be beyond my wildest dreams i think! Comment by Relevance on Worth Avenue YachtsExcellent yacht brokerage firm by all accounts for both sales and charter.
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I'd like one sized for a kayak that would be good for for positioning the boat while fishing. Guest625101138 Previous Member   There are some really nice RC motors, controllers and batteries around these days. You could also look at a Hobie Mirage or Wavewalker if you are not inclined to build a drive frame.
Location: Oregon Thanks Rick, but I'm not looking for this to be the main source of propulsion, just positioning the boat and moving slowly while fishing along the shore 2-3 mph would be plenty fast. I figure the simplest would be a motor that could be submerged like a regular trolling motor.
Fiddling around trying to waterproof motors when you can get something like the Endura would simply be a waste of effort and money.
A length of machinable aluminium or high strength stainless will make a workable curved shaft. You can get cheap metal props that are used for stirrers from McMaster that would be stronger but a 10X8 model plane prop is certainly worth a try. I expect we will see a lot more of this stuff coming out with lithium batteries in the next few years that will kill small ICE outboards in price and performance.
If the weight is still to much for you, since you are running way below the 34lb Endura rating, you might be able to turn down the motor body exterior. If you wanted to spend a little more, you could buy (2) smaller 12 volt batteries and a scooter motor controller + throttle (about $35 at TNC scooters) and get variable speed at about the same weight.
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Location: Texas Performance Pontoon Catamaran I am sure that I am missing the obvious, but why couldn't you use a set of aluminum pontoons to recreate a bigger metal version of one of these inflatable catamarans?
The inflatable versions originated as surf rescue craft in South Africa, and have become popular racing sport boats. Does this sound more sound, or am I going to have another "what was I thinking" epiphany when my hangover goes away?
Location: Austin TX Recycled Hulls I like your idea of using the G-Cat hulls. Location: Milwaukee, WI I am not sure an aluminum pontoon is heavier than an inflatable. We designed our Stringer system design based on the before and after results both the Capt. They are intended for short duration so have to be derated for continuous use but are certainly capable of over 1kW sustained if properly cooled.


I have not dissembled an Endura yet (will do so as soon as one fails) but if the skeg is solid, it might be sawed off. Looks like a very fine entry and straight run with a lot of flare in the mid sections to get enough spread for oars on gunnels ( a requirement in our class).
And while repairing holes or tears in the tubes is fairly straight foward, build a set of tubes from scratch is beyond the ability of mere mortals. My ideas come from eight years of racing and constant observation of our own two boat as well as the boats we race against. Weather prediction for our 4 mile race on Saturday is for temps to be 53 degrees F and winds to be 10-15 kts.
Rules are almost non existant and are limited to number of oarsmen,fixed or sliding seat, or general clasification ie: work boat or livery boat. I had hoped that this thread would bring out the real designers and a discussion of general design theory.
To win, a boat must be able to stand up to some tough conditions yet have enough speed to achieve 6 knots+ in calm conditions.
I'm learning a computer program for boat design and have a couple of promising sketches worked up. Might put a look of dismay on the Cornish boys faces - to be beaten by a yankee 'flashboat' 'specially if they don't know you have one!
Tad Roberts,a designer in Washington State, a forum contributor, was kind enough to send me a set of limes showing his concept of a fast row boat, and they gave me a lot to think about. I would appreciate a general discussion of design factors from people who are more knowledgeable than myself. A large part of his ideas will show up in my next boat if I can just get the station molds to print out on my program. Whatever she does, it's a fast boat (good crew too ) Does semi-planing happen, is it good or bad? Current plans are to put some rocker in forward to reduce bow steer and reduce wetted surface.



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