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Location: Colombia T Top design I work in a Shipyard in Colombia in sudamerica. What kind of dificults can have this size of boat for the fishing activities, that can be improve in the design?
Remember, the reason all of the fishing t-tops you see are small, is they are keeping everything out of the way when fishing. When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. If a boat is willing to accept the 1.1 speed ration a doubble ender will be OK , but the ability to sprint an extra K or 2 faster (to make a bridge or lock) will be absent. Additionally going down wind offshore the speeds may have to be reduced as the low speed stern usually adds energy to the waves and causes them to break earlier.
Originally Posted by Vega And if it was I, I will have a boat test in that boat in some difficult sea conditions.
Location: USA Stability and power Fred, the power plant can be changed out fr the same hp Tanmar or other make engine, not a big deal. Originally Posted by Guillermo Banjers (37' motorsailers) have a canoe stern and deep vee hull with full length keel, so lots of wetted surface. My boat's engine is a Perkins M 4-236 delivering a maximum of 71 HP DIN (86 HP SAE) at 2500 rpm. Originally Posted by Greenseas2 As far as rolling goes, the trollers are fairly deep footed and don't roll any more than any other hull design. Originally Posted by Greenseas2 The large and fast boats stil;l remain at the mercy, or lack of, the big oil companies. Location: USA Slimming it down LOL and agree, but how many people are there at the top of the oil industry that have boats or yachts. Originally Posted by Greenseas2 LOL and agree, but how many people are there at the top of the oil industry that have boats or yachts.
Location: USA Hypothesis I assessing the market for troller type efficient boats, we're looking more toward the hard working family who wants to cruise and save their bucks while doing so. Most of the high cost today is "luxuries, fridge , freezer , air cond and a huge variety of electric gadgets that hope to relieve the crew from needing to learn to navigate. ANY motorboat that is truly designed as a displacement cruiser will go about the same speed , on the same fuel. Location: Holland Efficient multi chine motor yacht A popular Dutch boating magazine (Waterkampioen) organised a contest in 1999 for an economical, easy to build motor cruiser.
I'm not so fond of the superstructure but the hull has proved to be very efficient at low speeds. Originally Posted by Greenseas2 [b], what I'm looking for is a good double endeed design that would be affordable to those who want to cruise under power. Location: USA Getting close The boat is getting close to what I think would be ideal.
She's is a custom Banjer, named DE WIDJE BLIK, owned by a member of the Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club, who worked at the Eista Werf boatyard.
Taking the opportunity, I enclose an image (not very good) of a motor Banjer from the drawing table of Dick Lefeber, Banjer series (And many others) designer. It was in the 60s and 70s, when Dick Lefeber worked for ?Eista Werf?, that he really won his spurs by designing the popular Doerak and Marak models.
Greanseas - the only real advantage that I can see to having a canoe stern is to 'spilt' overtaking waves whilst in a running sea. For as far as i understood (despite the name) the scope of this thread was to find a boat that is inexpensive to build, maintain and power.
Perhaps we can restart the discussion in a "affordable, low fuel consumption, good looking motor cruiser thread? Go and circumnavigate and take a look at the fuel costs, on the other hand I know a guy that crossed the Atlantic with less than 30 gallons, or a guy that has made it from the US to Australia with 10 gallons (mostly for the batteries) and fast too.
Location: Sydney Aluminum T-top bracket---how to make it shinning and hard ?
We tried powered coated before, feels good but not strong, if bend a little then they will fall off.
Location: NW Washington State USA I think we kinda sorta had this discussion before and concluded that a Grand Banks 36 took 50 hp to make 7 knots and a Willard 40 took 23.
Originally Posted by norwester I have been trying to locate a source for troller designs but have not had much luck. Location: Flattop Islands The vast majority of trollers (and all West Coast fishboats in fact) are not built from plans.
Location: Flattop Islands A 40' troller drawn by Frank Fredette of Victoria in 1961. Location: Flattop Islands A big heavy 48' troller by Bill Garden, designed in the late 50's. Location: Mobile ,AL 84 monterey clipper fiberglass Here is a 1984 Fiberglass Monterey Clipper built by Joe Fellipi of Moss Landing CA. Location: USA Salmon Trollers On a recent rip from Monterey to san Diego along the coasst highway, I sa a few of the 27 to 28 foot older Monterey Clippers for sale. And w bulbus bows I always wonder why they don't just make the upper bow as long as the "bulb"??


The cost of modifying the bulb runs over $1,000,000 so many are accepting the poor fuel results , in the hope the trade will resume ,,someday. There ARE fuel savings from going slower , as in every boat , the savings are just nor optimum.When the gas bill is in Tons per hour , everything counts! Another fine place is the Peobody Museum in Salem, be sure to Visit the Salem Maritime National Park while there. For a real authentic experiace go to Gloucester and join the crew of the Schooner Adventure. I would eliminate the back cabin that a lot of them have and install refrigerated fish boxes in the decks. As for accomidations 4 bunks in the bow and a gally with stove, sink & diesil cabin heater. He makes a good argument for outboard power for larger trailerable boats with efficient hulls given the efficiency of today's 4-stroke outboards including considerably lower intial cost than diesel inboard, more room in the boat, and easier to install.
Location: Australia Personally, I think this size is too small to have a separate pilothouse. The advantage of a separate pilothouse (one that is truly separate) is that the helmsman can still operate at night whilst the rest of the crew can have the lights on elsewhere in the vessel.
Location: Bellingham WA I ascribe to the theory that an important factor in designing the interior of a boat is the ability of the people on board to physically separate themselves from each other in order to prevent insanity and violence. Location: GB that's fair enough, I thought a tad more seaworthy might be needed. Right now I'm designing a 26' sportfish and maybe somebody can game me some feedback about they experiences.
I don't know if that engine has enough power to handle not so good weather conditions and that is supposed to be a cruising boat.
Here in southeast Florida we're starting to see the Monterey influence in economically operated charter fishing boats in the 30 to 40 foot ranges.
Clean hull, calm seas, full load) at 1300 rpm of the mentioned engine, the prop absorbing something like 14 HP of the 39 HP (DIN) available from engine at that rpm (These last two data estimated, as power-rpm curves are not available).
With a 900 lts tank, allowing for a non-usable 10%, range goes to 748 miles, if I worked out numbers correctly. The yachts easy construction (outside frame method) make it possible for a not so experienced builder to build one. I'll check it out Fred, while sail is a good source of powering a boat, what I'm looking for is a good double endeed design that would be affordable to those who want to cruise under power. It appears that it might be a motorsailer wait for mast and rigging, but a beautiful boat in any case. The boat was outstanding and in extraordinary good condition when I visited her in 2001, when the Banjers Gathering that year. Well, for many years now they have lost their sails (and also their rational side ? they have now huge motors) but they are still beautiful seaworthy boats.
Many times I've seen the results of studies that show that a full displacement power boat is indeed less costly to buy and own. But as always there are other aspects to consider - a canoe stern for instance will generally mean the loss of a boarding platform and a considerable loss of cockpit space. This means we should be looking for a boat of light displacement, easy in construction with use of conventional materials to keep costs down.
I figured the GB would take about 75 hp so even though the real life difference was less than I thought a bit over 2 times as much is not fly stuff.
You may want to search this area as they seem to be readily available and would probably be priced reasonably. The stern drives that I have seen seem to be outside of the power requirements of ?economical to operate?. It can take many, many hours underway to make up the difference in initial cost, especially after the prop, shaft, bearing, etc are included for the inboard. But the reality is that this would be very seldom - if ever - done on such a small craft with just 2 people onboard. Again - you don't have a great deal of space to play with, so anything that you can do to make it 'feel' bigger, the better.
But, I made the assumption that the plans were not available because there wasn't a link on the site to puchase them and there was a production boat being built from the plans.
However, most of the plans that had the accomidatons that I would like were over the 8.5' max beam. I am interested in learning more about how an outboard is set up to keep up with the electrical loads.
However, I would be concerned about the pounding of the flat bottom in any chop on the more open bays along the way.
We'll know more about this when I go out to Ca to research these boats more this month and ttalk with the people who use them.
However we noticed locally that deck parties at the dock on the big guys has become the norm as has a 1 hour cruise to a local water front restaurant where they hog all of the dock space in order to be able to strut their stuff and look down from the hundred story fly bridge on us peons eating sea food (uncatered of course).
Stadt have lots of experience in wood epoxy design so think they could develop drawings for this type of construction.
For one thing, seniors don't like the idea of having to go on deck at night or in heavy seas and prefer the comfort and security of a pilothouse.


This basically comes down to the cost of the rigging and the structure required to support it. The last two examples are beautiful but sort of heavy in displacement and complex in construction. When I bought my last boat I put too much emphasis on fuel burn and now am wishing I had a boat that burned twice as much. Perhaps there's something about the bulbus bow that makes it WLL wise butter than just making the whole bow as long as the bulb??? Nothing like comming abourd on a cold winters morning for some bacon & eggs and a hot cup of coffeee cooked on the wood stove in the galley. But the thread soon deteriorated into a discussion on the difference between compromise and optimization.
I was really looking for a sheltered helm station more that an totally enclosed pilot house. I do like the idea of being able to eliminate the below water line thru hull fitting too with using an outboard.
I do not think to the point to be a hazard, but certainly to the point to make the boat unliveable.
Also if you refer to Beebe's book on passsage making, alll of the passagemakers in the book are equipped with paravanes.
I have fished around where you live Tad, I have done some fishing on the Gulf coast, and wondered at the big sportfishing boats running out at speed running home at speed, very often with no flags.
Then on the other hand, I've seen great little boats pass the megas where everyone on the mega rushes over to the side to see the little guy with more than a little envy in their eyes. Few would consider building a sailboat without and engine, so there is little or no saving there. I know Edwin Monk designed some but his plans are no longer available according to Mr Monk Jr in Bainbridge WA. Once the thread got back on track, the discussion turned to another boat than was first described.
I did read some of the discussion on the economical use of and outboard rather than an inboard and am leaning toward this.
Also, are there concerns when using an outboard for extended times (months) without being able to flush salt water out of it's raw water cooling? A guy interested in that boat should also be interested in the real story that led to an unused boat.
I will make arrangements to take out the listed boat Fred and let you know how she is as seaworthiness goes.
The thought has crossed my mind from time to time that it is passing stange to burn a thousand pounds of fuel and return fishless, How many dinosaurs to the barrel by the way? But if your curves include the specific consumption one -because this one is not in Tad's- then I'll be most grateful if you send it to me by e-mail. The idea of the thread is to come up with a nice small troller that is economically operated. A question that sill remais for is the ability for the outboard motor the keep up with the electrical load requirements or if a generator would be needed? The second part of the desired equation is for the boat to also be operated with inexpensive biodiesel. And of course the cost of maintenance for a sailboat is often higher - not simply as a result of having to replace sails etc, but often because (many) sailboat owners tend to neglect the ongoing maintenance of their powerplants. I'm looking at a big old fish boat conversion now and am a bit scared of the wood ship construction.
I've looked at George Buhlers designs and they are very nice but I was hoping I could find a source for the plans from a historical source. The Clarem, as I found her this fall at Edna Bay on the outer coast of Prince of Wales Island.
I'm also looking at a Nordic 32 and I'm sure you'd say go w the Nordy but with my eye on the big old serious fish boat I may better be better able to see what the Nordy really is. Also the wood fish boat I'm looking at is very much like the 40' troller by Frank Fredette. That's why GRP for displacement fishing boats has had no success over here, except for mussel farming uses. GRP boats are lighter than wood or steel, so, for the same hull forms (And fishermen do like those forms) they need to add ballast, which makes movements at sea more uncorfortable, so they add bilge keels, or the like, etc. For mussel farming they use 18 m (typically) beamy boats, bringing mussel cargo on deck (a lot of tons!), inside the protected waters of the Galician Rías.
So, stability demands are quite different and GRP has had its place for this use, competing with wood and steel.



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