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I have been dreaming about building my own boat for a while now and the design process has started. On a different note, where did you get your supplies and do you have any tips on which products work best. Several guys around here (BlueRudy for one) had those style boats back in the day and I always liked them. Walley, I agree that there is a ton to learn about building with wood and I have been cruising those sites you listed for seems like years now. I have been talking with Jim from Aeromarine research (tunnel hull expert) and he is going to help me make sure that any changes i make to the hull are sorted out before the build starts. As far as the laminating the plywood, I read that on someone else s build thread that a major boat builder puts a layer of glass between the wood layers on their cold molded boats. As far as reinventing the wheel, the Fastcat, Liberator bass, and tallon flats boats are all cool and all but my nature has been to build what I want sense i was a kid. Also - in the total scope of this project, the marking & cutting out of panels is by far not the most difficult or time consuming, so i wouldn't consider the CNC router to be a huge step up vs. Jim and I talked about getting the balance between the life of the padded surfaces and the aerodynamic life produced by the wing. As far as the CNC router helping out, It will help a lot with how the finished design will be built. I have been getting all my ducks in a row to consult with Jim (aeromarineresearch) on do's and dont's when it comes to modifications to the liberator tunnel design. I was going to buy that talon mold and hull but long story short, I chose not to do so for various reasons. Pretty much have the hull laid out how I want and next i will start on the top deck and bulkheads.
I just ordered the Tunnel Hull Design software from Jim I figure its better to work out any bugs or ill traits before they are built into the real boat. I did some rough figuring on materials needed and I came up with the following which I rounded up a good percentage.
I was reading that a new Liberator hull is 1400lbs fresh out of the molds so if I can build my boat with all the interior storage compartments at around 1300lbs I will be happy. This is my rough figures which would make it lighter than a standard build liberator 21 sport boat. If this is your first visit, please click the Sign Up now button to begin the process of creating your account so you can begin posting on our forums! Amp aggregation of free download plans for RC powerboats including mono hulls Tunnel Hull Hydroplanes tierce item Hydroplanes and Shovel Nosed Hydroplanes.
Whether you're researching a new boat, or are a seasoned Captain, you'll find The Hull Truth Boating & Fishing Message Forum contains a wealth of information from Boaters and Sportfishermen around the world. I purchased a liberator 21 to cut up for this project but a friend of mine talked me out of it.
I have yet to add the center pod as I have yet to get all the detailed measurements for that part yet. A few months ago I would have never been open to building a boat from wood but, after research and the truth wood is a great choice. I spend a few hours a few day ago going through your build thread and learned a lot about working with wood covered in fiberglass and epoxy.

The only drawbacks I can figure are that these boats will be loud as in have tunnel slap when at rest from water slapping the tunnel and, the load capacity of such a boat will not be as great as a V hull of like size. Sometimes ideas can be developed by seeing what others have done so post away pictures of info if you like. I would check out the Glen-L, woodenboat, or bateau forums to get some ideas on boat building and cold molding over plywood. What changed is that I sold my Backcountry proguide last month which I hated to do but my desire to build my own boat was over ruling.
One good thing about my proposed design is the deck which is going to be a huge increase of lift due to the air foiled shape I plan to go with. I understand that without a thicker core there is little gain in strength other then puncture resistance which is a minor concern. There is no way to have the boat balanced at all speeds so i will just have to design around the desired speed. It will be a self jigging interlocking design that is built on a level surface should result in a very accurate hull.
That Talon hull and mold has been for sale for going on 2 years now and when i first saw it, that is when my plans leaned towards building my own boat. It will be good to get familiar with the build procedure as well as provide motivation to get started on the real thing. My only problem is i want to start cutting some wood and I am going to have to wait until my design is where it needs to be. I am abandoning cutting up and reconstruction of the liberator in favor of a new designed based of the liberator bottom specs.
This 3d model is a rush job and rough around the edges but it helped me get a visual of what I want to build.
One advantage that I have is a good friend right next door to my shop with a huge 5x10 CNC router and nearly every single part besides stringers I will have CNC cut. I just finished taking measurements for the center pod so Maybe I will have that part modeled later tonight. Other than that I can not think of anything else that would cause this kind of design from being a great fishing vessel. That does pose a issue with the balance of the lift generated by the pad area with the flying wing part but, i will get it sorted out correctly for the best possible performance which I hope is fast. I agree this is a heck of a big project and I have a good understanding on the balancing act that must be sorted act with such a design.
I think I could possibly work with a thicker wood as most of the bending parts are not very wide. The fast cat looks to fat and the liberator looks like a hacked out standard liberator with decks and the talon is cool but rare and as with all these boats cost a butt load. At the stage I am at now, It is best to make any aerodynamic or hydrodynamic changes that may improve the design or, maybe Jim will suggest that the liberator design is spot on and the details can be sorted out with minor changes to weight distribution. I could very easily build a mold for the design I am working on but, being a core material is needed on such a boat anyhow, why not build it completely out of good quality light weight Marine plywood and cut back on the glass thickness and have a stronger lighter boat.
I flipped the liberator over and took detailed measurements and got starting in cad producing a model.
I will have a complete cut file with everything from transom, bulkheads, to interior panels all ready to send the the CNC.

After I get my drawing done I will laser cut some templates for various locations on the hull to verify that my drawings are the same as the liberator hull.
I myself do not carry huge heavy loads and to be honest who needs 100lbs of fishing gear while in the bay fishing for trout and reds?
I talked to Jim at Aeromarine for a good while today and although i was heading the right way i knew there would be a few other areas to address.
I get a lot of enjoyment out of the design and build phase and it almost outweighs the joys of getting on the water and fishing. There is no perfect setup so i will just need to make sure the design will work well in a set range and thats it.
There are very few parts that have to be cut or trimmed with a knife or sandpaper to build one of my design.
I have yet to figure weight per using wood as a core material vs wooden hull glassed inside and out, but, from all i have read the later is stronger and lighter.
I am working on getting it how I want before starting to slice it up into the parts that will make up the design.
I can understand boats that are loaded down with live bait in the live well but, I have never fished with live bait as i enjoy artificial more. The boat will be a wooden liberator bottom which I do not plane to change unless Jim advises me to do so. All the parts tab together and self jigging while all the sheeting is cut to the perfect shape. The reason boats are not built this way is it takes more work where as a new fiberglass hull can be made in a day. I think they would enjoy the process of building something then being able to get in that something and drive it.
File Date Reverse Sort Order Downloads MaxCatV1 liter Click Here to Emily Post Comments operating theatre Ask Questions more 317.0 KB eleven 03 2009 4 213 rc tunnel hull plans. We talked about the deck shape increasing aerodynamic lift which i knew would have to be addressed and it could be a very good change or it could cause some issues. Maybe new products create a lighter completely composite hull but then you are looking at having to open the wallet more. The design will be all tab and lock style which I have been utilizing for the past 13 years designing RC model airplanes. We can fish off an enormous deck, then we can go 90+ mph on the lake with a stability no V hull can match.
I will be sending Jim all the measurements from the liberator hull as well as the measurements for my proposed build.
I can still go either way with this build, I am still in the design stage of getting the boat dimensions as I desire for the performance i hope to achieve.
I know the details are key for a good performing hull design and I plan get those details as sorted out as possible.
Whatever the case I am looking forward to the project no matter how much trouble it ends up being to get it right.

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