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April 27, 2012Welcome back to this week’s How To – where I made a Cardboard DIY Pirate Ship for the children! I like to layer my paper in different directions – you know how when you tear newspaper it one direction it tears really is easily, but not in the other? 7) Let dry again and add detail – I painted on some skull and cross bones and anchors. I’ve been dying to see this since the teaser (prior to covering in paper mache) and it is amazing! What a cute little pirate ship…my boys would have so much fun playing with one like that!
After all the amazing things you’ve posted to Creative Juice Thursday over the past year, I just had to feature you {and much more in the future too} at the new site. Originally Posted by davidcarey " Intended to be built in Sri Lanka were timber and labour are cheaper.
Had a very small yard in those days and made the spars myself and rigged her using traditional manilla, GI wire and engine installation. Went over again a couple of years later and designed and built a 44 ft schooner at Welamunkara. Pirates used every type of vessel that is true, like any 'trade' and would assume small was far more common than large.
Reckon fairly similar to the 'Marblehead' in profile, only one or two lines plans of the 'Marblehead exist? Framing- frame spacing closer or the same as lots of traditional designs of this length and date. Ballast cast steel ingots (full frame bay length), lipped onto thru bolted cleats thru floors. Rebate for keel- please look at the amidships frame not flat or slightly rising but planking strongly angled to the keel.
Not arguing about that at all about the sailing performance of a schooner, True comments about the upkeep of a wooden boat, they really need looking after, nor the disadvantages of a schooner rig. Rigged wrongly for it's period- just look at the photos or any book on the subject and make up your own mind. Originally Posted by Tad Actually Papillon did not die, those steel Colvin pinkies are incredibly tough.
The complete building plans & details for a Pinky schooner are in the book along with permission to build one for own use.
WRT eucalypts, living in the home of them I'd have no hesitation on using some of them for any structural purpose. Location: Marshfield massachusetts usa wierd in a recent issue of Backwoodsman magazine there is an article about pirate ships. I do note constant reference to books, rules and pictures and not personal experience with 18th century craft and their use. The too-close framing, caulked ceiling, heavy kneeing and blocking and keelson are for when you get hard aground on a bar in a swell and are pounding her guts out and hope the ship lasts until she floats off on the tide, but that will never happen, since the scantlings are 'within the rules', which are calculated for sailing strains and getting hard aground is not part of the plan. Likewise the wimpy single X of deck strapping, relying solely on the fasteners at each beam to take the wracking strains of the deck. As far as Mahogany for decks, we do not have the timber resources available to the poster (mahog is $11 a BF down the street at Edensaw) so don't use it much in our climate. If casting custom internal ballast blocks to fit the frames, why steel, flaking its rust into the bilge forever?
As noted before, when being trained as a Museum researcher at Mystic, I was particularly advised to double or triple check anything Howard Chapelle reconstructed, as his work was considered 'popular' and not rigidly researched enough.
He was an academician and not a schooner skipper, so anything he relays about handling is from either word of mouth or reading logbooks (the best source) or ancient newspapers, which no more covered the details of handling a schooner than a modern paper does about driving a semi-truck. The square rig is not just for downwind, but for maneuverability, being able to adjust COE a great deal, being able to stop quickly, even sail backwards to get out of a jam. The knockabout generic schooner rig as drawn will work, though the topmast is either out of scale or just drawn too fat and long, but a fore-topsail schooner would be more authentic for the times, as the knockabout was for firewood carriers, fishermen like dogbodies and pinkies and general coasters, not something with a pair of fleet heels. That description of sailing under that 1000 sq ft main and the headsails sounds like the tiller is hard up in the gusts, or the sheet is loosened and the main thunders like Thor as the gaff whips.
The first thing you learn when actually sailing one of these things is if the wind pipes up, reef the bloody main and make it smaller, because you might not be able to do so in 15 minutes, but that's not in the book.

Sailing for a Living, Basil Greenhill, (a 5 shilling, 1950s museum pamphlet of 75 pages of wisdom).
Schooners, Basil Greenhill (Naval Institute Press) Greenhill was head of NMM in UK for many years. The Merchant Schooners, Basil Greenhill (Naval Institute Press) Exhaustive book on UK and other schooners of all types and times. The smack and schooner built earlier by the poster have lovely lines and look like good boats, though oyster smacks (which is what she seems to be) tend to be wet and specialized vessels, fast in some conditions.
So far, in my opinion, the poster has proven he knows enough about 18th century schooners to draw pictures on the computer. Location: USA The poster showed he understood how a computer works, not a boat, and certainly not an 18th century boat.
Location: USA One can get all the good info in the world, but if you don't change or modify or improve your ideas from that, it's not much good. When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals.
The Sunset is an propeller-driven craft, a combination of a tall ship set built over the hull of another boat. For the making of the second and third Pirates films, Dead Man's Chest and At World's End, the Sunset was redesigned and built by production designer Rick Heinrichs and his production team, in which it portrayed the Black Pearl. During the making of Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, the original Black Pearl was basically a set built from the hull up on top of a barge, which was towed into position for filming. Eight months prior to the start of principal photography, production designer Rick Heinrichs was given the task of creating the new Black Pearl.
Because the Black Pearl didn't figure physically into the story of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, it was decided that the Sunset was to be used as the base for the Queen Anne's Revenge, the infamous ship belonging to the film's villain Blackbeard.
While creating the ship's design, producer Jerry Bruckheimer said that since the most famous pirate flag was the skull and crossbones, they should work on some skulls and skeletons into the design of the ship. Throughout 2011 to 2012, the Sunset remained docked in Hawaii, where On Stranger Tides was filmed. The Sunset was made completely of metal, but she is claded like the old, 18th century vessel. It could be said that the real name of this ship is the "Black Pearl", because (as of 2010) the Queen Anne's Revenge was built over the Black Pearl.
The Pirates of the Caribbean wiki has a collection of images and media related to Sunset (ship).
I used some nail scissors (that I have especially for crafting) – as they have a nice round curve. The deck is quite fragile and is the part that probably benefits the most from the paper mache. Well, I believe that if you criss cross your paper layers when paper maching, you get a stronger final construction. In other words a vague nautical fantasy of what a generic late 18th century schooner should be like. Just from the point of view of it being easy to get six like minded crew together rather than one hundred and fifty.
Common to have iron or high density stone or anything heavy fitted in fishing boats or privateers for that matter as unlike freighters the light and loaded condition didn't alter that much. The system works by preventing racking of planks (what hanging and lodging knees also try to do). Iron bark, blue gum & stringy bark are extremely tough, strong and rot resistant for example and don't move around much once seasoned. It's in the rules, so must be right, and is, so long as the thin metal itself and fasteners remain in new condition forever, the wood around the fasteners doesn't deteriorate etc. A schooner with a square fore-topsail is a whole other thing than a knockabout, and was the usual rig of the times.
Stone-built SF bay oyster sloop, all work done by hand by me and one other guy, broadaxed the masts from trees, reframed, replanked, hand sewed the Egyptian cotton sails etc.
MacGregor (Naval Institute Press) MacGregor sets the bar high on research with his many books. Every time one of us made an observation about a 'lacking' in his design, he just got defensive and Lawyer-ed up with scantlings and rules, and did not engage in the discussion.

Prior to appearing in the Pirates of the Caribbean film franchise, the Sunset once serviced oil derricks in the Gulf of Mexico. In 2010, because the Black Pearl didn't fit into the story of On Stranger Tides, the Sunset was once again redesigned, this time by production designer John Myhre, to portray the Queen Anne's Revenge.
To speed its construction, Heinrichs built the new Black Pearl around the old Sunset; which was docked in Bayou La Batre, Alabama. So with production designer John Myhre and his team, the Sunset went under construction, in which the entire top of the boat was sliced off in the creating process of redesigning the ship.[4][5] Having looked at old pirate films and noticed it wasn't always easy to distinguish one ship from another in battles, Myhre wanted to make the Queen Anne's Revenge stand out and look like the most powerful ship on the seas. With that in mind, John Myhre remembered Kostnice, the famous "Church of Bones" in Kutna Hora, Czech Republic; it was a church that was literally decorated with bones.
Then glue all the discs together with strong (!) glue and finally glue in place on the boat.
I reckon it would be a really good pinata for a birthday party if it was built a bit bigger with a weakened section – what do you think? Have you thought of epoxy and heavy strip plank edge nailed--forgiving in terms of joinery on the hull sheeting but challenging in repairs. This design does have a lot of ballast and it's higher density than of old, so agree not historically accurate but a better job.
Really nice experience seeing a boat built.Have had labour only quotes from 4 boatyards and pretty reasonable. He stated that he obtains his best and fastest feedback info on an engineering question by making a quazi untrue observation in question form on the topic of his OP thread.
In the case of Blackbeard's ship, Myhre thought instead of doing all these intricately carved molding details, what if they used the bones of Blackbeard's victims in the design of the Queen Anne's Revenge.
See what you can find at home and amend our DIY Pirate Ship How to, to suite what you have at home! Near the middle I snipped the fabric, threaded through some string and with that tied the sail to the mast!
The other challenge of course is the moisture content of the timber has to be well within tolerance.
Print them on dimensionally stable mylar sheet along with bevels, joints, fastening positions, place those on the timber piece and mark the timber directly. His theory was, it gives opportunity for posters to make use of all that book and experimental background. Best to cut your two side panels and the back, tape it all together and then to cut your base and desk to fit your boat.
Same for the deck though narrowleaf mahogany is a better material than would probably of been used. In the next ten pages he describes in exquisite detail the manning, feeding, pay scales, trades and handling in all weathers of these small ships.
Why would any doubt be needed on longtitudial keel of such scantlings on a fifty footer with internal ballast?
One of the reasons I decided to build a steel Colvin design myself was the ability of steel boats to survive abuse in general, and the lines, level of detail and line drawings in Tom's steel boat building books in particular. If you are truly interested in learning from 'them that has done it', this is a good place to start. Well my experience has been good 30 years on the decks of a replica East coast fishing smack built in Sri Lanka and just about every authority on boat building says it's good.
Rules say most boats at this displacement or length do not require a keelson especially if diagonal hull strapping is used.
Maybe it's only good in european climates or was one of the generic 'mahoganies' that let Bataan down? In this case the OP has received excellent input on what could be the weak links in his design.

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