Unobtanium and a few other guys posted in a thread on here about the AR's rep as a jammamatic a while back. Firearms General Discussion Rifles, pistols, shotguns, scopes, grips and everything in between. But if you have some mosins, don't fool yourself into thinking you have a better quality weapon than you have.
Granted, if you're playing Jeremiah Johnson out in BFE, and the only thing you're worried about are moose and bears, then the Mosin is just fine. But for the most part, people need to stop dressing up this ugly pig, known as the mosin, and trying to pass it off as the prom queen. Sorry if this has already been debated but I see it way too much to think that people aren't being serious. So, say in a couple years when the cost of the Mosin reaches the $400 - $500 range, will people still be saying the same thing about it? One thing about the mossin is that you can easily stockpile a few for friends or neighbors in a shtf scenario because they are inexpensive and the ammo is cheap and easy to stockpile. Not to dissect and split hairs, but if you want to put the archangel stock on the mosin, and put ANY modern Pic-rail scope on it -- need to modify the bolt too. Look, I've shot in the USMC and I've done 500 yds with iron sights, so I know how to use them. Not saying everyone needs to be looking like an Operator, but OMG the face-palm in that picture is heavy. So you're going to hand these out to people who show up, have minimal experience (otherwise they would have their own gun), and you think they will be effective at any range? The reason the semi auto was invented, is for the advantage of the action eliminating the need to cycle the bolt taking your eye off target.
Hunting is a critical action, but not as critical as war, when some one is shooting at you. What is available to opposition, should be the deciding factor, because any thing less than what the opposition is using, is INFERIOR. Unfortunately , like new-bees that ride motorcycles in a group, try to keep up with those pushing the envelope; they get killed.
Bad guys don't stand there like paper targets , I don't even know why they are used, except for sighting in. Living targets move at random and require anticipation and action more serious than a hunt for game. I feel it would be dirty and misleading, like Joe bidden, to suggest that some one be under gunned.
I had written about this before back in December of last year and my opinion have changed substantially. Not only do you need to have ammunition and magazines for defensive purposes, but you need to be able to practice and train. Then you're gonna love my free PDF, 20 common survival items, 20 uncommon survival uses for each. First problem is that most people purchase quality JHP ammunition for their daily carry or self protection needs (if they’re not already doing this, then they have FAR more problems than a simple “how much ammo do I need”), but when they stock up on ammunition for the MBZ Hoardes they only stock up on practice “ball” ammunition. I would say that if you’re at 300-2000 rds of defensive JHP pistol ammo, that you’re doing okay. For semi auto rifles, I would say 500-5000 rds of JHP or SP ammunition is a good start for all the above same reasons. I have as a back up, cap and ball pistol with a spare cylinder and a muzzle loading rifle, they may not be fast but by the time I have to resort to there use hopefully the worst will be over. Him, and Doc Shane and Paladin know a tremendous amount about the platform, and I'd take their suggestions seriously.

For mountain fighting even the lowly mosin is more useful than an AK or AR-15 simply due to its range, however to utilize that advantage you have to practice a lot. I wouldn't recommend any 5 shot bolt action that weighs as much as a barbell and is every bit as long.
For people not planning on travel or who are looking for hand out guns at the BOL it provides a level of performance and cost that can not be matched. But if you want to properly employ a 7.62 caliber rifle round to it's fullest extent --- you NEED to have optics. Far as a long range battle rifle in my survival battery a Mosin is GREAT for this role, WW2. This will also subscribe you to my newsletter so you stay up-to-date with everything: new articles, ebooks, products and more! If I am preparing for a medium duration (6mo to 2 years) event, the below comments should be fine. Remember, carry ammunition should be regularly rotated at least every year or so or when exposed to water or solvents. While dry-firing and airsoft and lasers all have their place in practice, you eventually have to send lead down range in order to retain some shooting skills. An expenditure of 100 rounds a month would not be unreasonable in order to maintain your skill level (and that is low for some people). I am glad to see I am not the only one that changes his outlook on stuff like this – and recent events were a big reason why. A supply of 2ffg black powder and caps are all thats really needed, cleaning gear should be the norm for any firearm, 2ffg is good for 45 caliber and above. The 9mm I just started to integrate into my system in 2009, but since the G17 and G34 fit the same holsters as my G22 and G27 all I really needed to buy were the guns and magazines.
I understand money might be an issue for many and there are more important preps than a long gun but even at modern prices you can spend $300 and get an SKS. I talked to the guy behind the counter about the price and he said it's mainly due to two reason: 1) supply is drying up and 2) importing guns is getting tougher due to regulations.
And the Mosin just needs so much aftermarket work, you might as well just get a bare-bones Rem 700 in .308.
If you want to know history SKS was never really became the main battle rifle at all in Russia far as war, even though it was distributed to 3 world countries.
These numbers represent supply for me and my family – and a few friends using several firearms.
Not only taking into account my own (and family’s) personal needs, but in possible friends, neighbors, etc. FMJ ammo is for practice (unless you’re in the military where they don’t want bullets to actually kill the enemy soldier) and JHP is for defensive purposes. So between the occasional expenditure of rounds and rotating carry rounds, 300 rounds is a good start and if you’re looking at serious long term, then 2000 is a better start.
I have a unit called Tap a Cap from Dixie Gun Works that forms a cap from a stip of beer can and uses caps from a kids cap gun to ignite the power so stock up on thm as well.
Because if you take two people with similar skills, the one with the semi auto will be at a distinct advantage over someone that does not. AR10 and M1A come first, but if for some reason the SHTF scenario dragged out long term they would definitely serve a purpose with training and hunting so I can save my good stuff for defense. Sure an SKS is inferior to weapons like the AK and and AR but it is far superior to any bolt action. Lever action rifles were popular in the WEST, however it was not popular by any military in the world and those 20 something years after the Civil War and this is what led to the bolt action rifle.
If, for whatever reason, your current supply becomes all you will ever have – no ability to resupply.

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If for some reason you cant have a semi auto where you live get a good lever action like a marlin 3030.
Magazines can wear out, be damaged, lost during use – and having plenty of filled magazines when they are truly needed is a Godsend. At minimum we grab our wallet (or purse), our car keys and our cell Phone and head off to work.
Sure its still bolt action, but stockpiling a few for family is good if they otherwise would not have access to mutiple weapons, etc. And this doesn’t include using it for any major firefights or practice sessions or teaching a new shooter how to shoot.
Everytime you're not shooting you can load rounds into the magazine tube without taking the gun out battery.
I can take the kids out and between the four of us easily go through 300-500 rounds of centerfire ammunition and sometimes a brick or two of .22 LR.
Generally everyday carry items are items you carry in your pocket, on your belt, in your purse or in you wallet.Basic everyday carry items include…Folding Knife. The situations you face on a daily basis will be different than another person, while some of these items like water purification tablets might be the same.Take a look at your situation, and the situations you are likely to face during your daily routine.
If you live in an urban area or drive a lot you will need to tailor your EDC items accordingly. A knife, a flashlight and a lighter are must haves for everyday Carry.We went through quite a bit of detail about how to pick the best knife which you can read more about here. As time goes on, and as we add items to our everyday carry we can end up carrying a lot of stuff.
No one ever wants to be in a situation where they have to defend their life and property, but it happens all the time.First aid items and fire starting supplies also fall into this category. Here is an example of the EDC I keep in my truck, you can see that there is a lot of stuff (maybe too much) and if I didn’t have a kit my pockets would be full.There are literally thousands of items we can buy when it comes to preparedness, but very few of those do we actually need. I am going to end the campaign on TeeSpring this Sunday because we have reached our goal and I want the shirts sent out ASAP.To read about why these shirts are so great and find out how to get one click here.
I’m not sure if we are going to make more of these shirts in the future, but we are going to use this design for other products in the future.The patches for this design are first on our list. The first few videos are going to be a step by step list of exactly what you need to become more prepared in the beginning, along with PDF checklists to download.I also plan on having the first issue of the Survivalist Prepper Members Magazine out by the end of this month.
Click here and find out what our plans are for this.And finally I am working on getting a members only conference together for anyone interested. I want this to be no more than 5 or 6 people because I want everyone to be able to say what they want. If this goes well I might even do a couple a month and even some one on one consultations.If you are on the members email list I will send out something when I have the details. The definition of a prepper is "An individual or group that prepares or makes preparations in advance of, or prior to, any change in normal circumstances, without substantial resources from outside sources" Like the Government, police etc. I don't believe that the end of the world will be the "end of the world" I believe it will be the end of the world as we know it now. You can also find me on Google Plus and TwitterLeave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *CommentName * Email * Website CAPTCHA Code * Notify me of follow-up comments by email.

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