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A short goods train, headed by a new 48 class diesel, passes over the through truss bridge before entering the terminus of Watson's Flat in the early 1970s. This bridge and its wooden trestle approaches have been scratchbuilt from brass by David Bennett and Neil Watson.
AMRA NSW is dedicated to promoting the hobby of model railways throughout New South Wales. The road bridge painted yellow & brown is loosely based on tyseley , this bridge has been removed as for rebuilding one of 3 baseboards , its station building is been started but not finished, but also removed for now.
This photo is my next project, I like those stiffeners supporting paraphet, but i'll have to use thin brass strips for this. I had almost forgotton about this thread, i found a few of my old photo's (in a photo album of all places ) so thought i would scan them & put up here as to update this thread ! Not all bridges have wing walls to compliment thier abutments, heres a box girder bridge at aston station in birmingham. A long span re-enforced concrete bridge that carries road traffic, note the vertical girders that help support the length & weight of this bridge. Post pictures and information about your own personal model railway layout that is under construction.
No I'm not swapping and changing my mind, Canon Streets stock has been sitting in boxes for closing in on 2 years, I really do need somewhere to be able to stretch their legs and keep everything in working order. 50mm is fine if there is nothing under the baseboard However have you taken into account the frame and point motors that the lower level has to pass under? I like the circular storage loops, great use of space and options for variable train movements. At 1:60 the track will rise to approx 19mm along the back edge of the layout before it reaches the first curve, it will then rise a further 12-13mm through the curve from beneath the warehouse to a road overbridge, leaving another 19mm required for the 4' through the passing loop. Nice and inventive Zunnan - and glad you've found a way to get back into N gauge One thought:On my previous layout I found the gradient on curves needed to be less than on straights, otherwise trains slowed quite obviously on the curves. I found with Canon Streets 1:35 on a tight curve that only the longest trains (8+ coaches, 30+ wagons) were seriously affected.
I can't see a red area, there is enough contrast with the black for me to see it Have you taken into account that when using a reversing loop it needs to be no shorter than your longest train?
I'll edit the image to make it stand out better, its just the passing loop that is highlighted anyway. The main reason behind the layout is to get Canon Streets stock out of the storage boxes, run it and keep it maintained.
A full capacity check on the storage loops has now taken place running on DC with the track temporarily laid on the OO layout to complete a circuit.
The foundations for the baseboards are now going from the planning stage to the 'bigger than I expected in reality' stage.
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I will be more then happy to explain how I built these bridges and the materials used to make them.
In case any one is wondering, the wall beside SDJR 24 is there to stop any trains falling off the layout on tt the concrete floor below. I have a box of Forster Economy Craft Sticks, (Popsicle sticks), I plan to use for its construction. Bridges of the same basic design, but of different span lengths, still exist on pioneer branchlines all over NSW, including those to Yass Town and Barraba.
That disused line is between Peebles and Galashiels just off the Waverley route in the Lothians.
GROTLAND Nice photo's , Interesting detail of old buildings for good referance use for my possible projects in future. Allow me to add in quite an interesting bridge I've been researching.At first glance this bridge seems to serve no purpose, it lies in a shallow embankment on the Nuneaton to Coventry line about half a mile south of Chilvers Coton between an industrial estate and small hillock which seperates the railway from the B4113 Coventry Road.

I also need somewhere to be able to stow away the four 2' x 4' baseboards for the OO DCC layout. I reckon you will be nearer 80mm I've redone the calculations from the numbers you supplied above, and I get a gradient of 1:10 Thats MEGA steep! Given that 1:60 is 5mm rise per foot, a 10'9' run should give a possible maximum climb of 54mm. That means a distinct bias towards the transition era, but as you noticed there is a Red Stripe 31 missing from the shelf in the shop.
The idea is to build a 'chest of drawers' to store the 8' x 4' 00 gauge layout in, where the drawers are actually the modules which form the layout. Next time if you could send materials used, how you built them, how they are finished, and even the scale would be great.
I find for footplatemen in particular that people who are NOT meant to be doing that often look most convincing. For US readers, please be aware that you will be violating environmental protection laws if you tear open USED filters … presumably they have absorbed toxins. It has a span of 30 feet, which is wide enough to run a main road under, but it is far too low and leads to nowhere. What I'm thinking is to produce two 'chest of drawers' with each to hold two baseboards, so each chest will need internal dimensions of 2' x 4' by 3' high to house the boards.
This plan doesn't use a helix by the way, which is where I think you're going adrift with the gradient calcs. Well, I say 7 coaches, I checked with 3 cargowagons and a Peak so it could be 8 Mk1s and a short locomotive perhaps I've just returned from my local model shop (HobbyRail) having forked out for the storage yard track, and it cost me less than it would from the box shifters.
The only issue that I have is that Farish VGA vans can't use the middle road because they don't like the reverse curves on the exit pointwork.
I have built the first chest to test that this will actually work, and have to say that its a bit bigger than I was expecting standing a meter tall with a 4'2" x 2' footprint! I built a small five bent trestle and hope to build two or three Howe truss bridges but will use dowels instead of finished scale lumber (for a logging layout).
Many standard plastic ones are shovelling like fury, or thrusting the regulator right up to the roof as though on a Royal Scot mounting Shap bank, a bit OTT.
Just up from that bridge are these big coal drops to supply a gas works, which would make a good model too. It carried the railway over a canal and 3'4" gauge mineral railway, the northern towpath of the Coventry Canal 'Griff Arm' having the narrow gauge tramway leading to a quarry (which is now the hillock mentioned) which fed a lime kiln on the other side of the railway bridge at the canals wharf. Not to mention a staple 1980s and early 90s Black Country workhorse for steel workings (class 31), also cheaper than certain box shifters knock them out for! The era for the layout is intended to be switchable from 1960 to 1990 (give or take), as per my initial plans for doing Griff in OO gauge, passenger trains are covered for the transition period by a pair of class 101s (2+3 car) and a loco hauled Suburban rake for local services.
The canal carried coal traffic from three collieries in the immediate area, and was amongst the latest surviving wharfs to do so as by then canal bound coal traffic had long been on the roads, it survived in full service until the last pit closed in July 1960.Simplistic construction on the parapets with a little dressing stone on the corners of the retaining wall with the addition of three bars passed through the bridge to hold it together as a result of over a century of mining subsistence. I've measured a few locos on code 80 rail and they stand 32mm high in total, assuming a 9mm ply trackbed this should leave 9mm clearance.
The omens are so far looking good for this one, although I was only supposed to be pricing it up and buying the woodwork first. Then I have a raft of Mk1, Stanier and Gresley stock to make up any length and formation for longer distance stoppers and expresses. Construction is simple, there are two 4' x 2' 18mm boards braced with 18mm x 70mm timbers, these form the top and bottom panels to the chest and are sealed with acrylic car paint which renders it entirely waterproof to the point that it can be submerged in a bath with no ill effects (as well as avoiding using naff varnishes ). Looking for a template take aim sales layout well you get right I'm going to show you how to move get unlimited train layout good example without buying. A classic dog bone trackplan twisted back on itself giving me 2 passing loops long enough to hold full length trains and allow a train to pass on each reverse loop. As the loops are storage, not scenic, it is planned to use surface mounted point motors rather than to mount beneath the track which greatly reduces the need for space.

The sides are formed using 18mm thick 'conti board', the stuff flat pack furniture is made of, and have a timber runner fitted to them.
Note the heavily silted retaining walls on both sides below the bridge deck, even the graffiti has been subject to a few coatings of slurry from the railway above.From underneath you can see the bridge decking through the lateral beams, the rails above merely fixing to the timbers above, which can be seen here as the notched woodwork sitting just an inch or so deeper than the decking. Now, a reverse loop in N takes up about 2' x 3', so that leaves a scenic section of just 2' x 5' or there abouts, and I don't like visible tight curvature so that cuts another 12" off the scenic run. So little information about the past of this area exists, this bridge is the only real physical evidence that anything was here, it's been fantastic researching it. Here is natural selection N vitamin A hole cutting rate sale layout in United Kingdom and United States I represent atomic number 49 the hope that we can support other in his right hand.
Add into the mix that the reverse loops will need to be stacked on top of each other to save space means that the entire visible running line will need to be on a ruling gradient of 1:60 in order to meet the 50mm clearance required for the loops to sit one on top of the other. I will be following this project as to maybe steal a few idea's & learn from your extensive knowledge .
Rigidity of the structure actually comes from the layout itself, but it is sturdy enough without the layout 'drawers' inserted.An added bonus to the design is that the top of the chest can be used for storage. Quite the challenge, eh?So the plan, this is the basic idea:The problem I have with this plan is that the passing loop for the industrial sidings completes a reverse loop.
Looking at my wants list, I think I'd better expand the storage yards with a 4th loop each!
For those too lazy to count as well as a graphic of just how large these are, there are 42 American H0 freight cars and 10 diesels in the top tray plus 16 square feet of scenic 00 layout and an N Gauge test layout in the lower storage section. However if I were to remove the crossing, bottom left, and just have the passing loop feed off the inner line, then there is no reverse loop on the layout at the expense of operational flexibility. Ever since building Canon Street, I don't think I could build a flat layout ever again, even the OO layout isn't flat.
Of course, there will be a layout going on top of the tray, but I am giving serious consideration to hinging the layout at the rear to give ready access to the electrics.
This will then mean that the 'temporary' tray formed by the bracing of the chest then becomes actual storage space even when the N Gauge layout is in place.Huge vets bills this month means that only the two chests can be built for now, but that will also give me plenty of time to ponder exactly how to mount the N Gauge layout on top of the two chests. Find cross for layout N gauge model railway can make up quite a hard as it sounds compose comme il faut less popular. The alternative is some complex switching for DC to govern the yard feeds or two storage loops, or to convert to DCC and use a reverse module on either the entire yard, or a module for each of the loops.
Definately plan in advance of doing the baseboards, multi level layouts only work with quite a bit of planning, otherwise you can end up with a flat tabletop railway with 1:5 gradients trying to get up to that terminus station you wanted but couldn't fit in any other way.
I always start with a pencil doodle on scraps of paper, and a few scribbled calculations thrown in where gradients are involved.
XtrkCad comes after the paper has provided a potentially workable idea, mostly because its easier to get an idea of what the available points will let you get away with in a given space; if i were better at getting point profiles right, I'd stick to pen and paper! Edit ~ Being as I have the track to do it, I decided to mock up the upper storage loops in their entirity. Mainly to check clearances between the lines using long vehicles with large overhangs (class 44 and cargowaggons), but also to gauge the capacity of the yard and confirm the XtrkCad dimensions.The first radius loop comfortably holds a decent amount of stock.
8 Mk1 coaches and a Peak just fits in if one of those Mk1s is a BG which suits me for a layout of this small size, thats longer than the station can hold and means that the inner loops can comfortably be used to hold 2 or 3 DMUs each. I think I'll have the right hand headshunt extend around the outside of the upper loop to accomodate a full length train rather than having it at just over half of this length as currently shown on the plan, and also provide a 4th radius loop on the lower level loop.

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