Location: Thames Valley, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Do some boats have a cabin but no sole or floors? However I have now seen some respected designs for microcruising boats that have no sole or flooring.
Second Sven Yrvind of Sweden's latest boat which he has just sailed from Ireland to Madiera. Location: Thames Valley, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland They don't walk on the inside of the bottom planking because there is no standing headroom, they can only sit. Location: Thames Valley, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Thanks for the useful comments.
It would seem that the rocker combined with the bend in side panels stops the boat flexing around as much as a cuboid shaped hull and gives it more external strength.
But the 2" thick foam core sandwich construction will enable the hull to take more point loads from the inside (as well as increasing strength for external point loads and overall stiffness). It's amazing how the Enigma 360 can take the loads on the inside, having only a 9mm plywood bottom with no added support. Location: NW Washington State USA That would be a problem only on a very light boat. Location: WNY Floors on traditionally built watercraft also tied the frames and keel together.
Location: Iowa Most (not all but most) of the boats that don't have floors have other structure filleted in (bulkheads, bunks, lockers etc) that reduce the amount of open area (span) that carries the load.
Originally Posted by DCockey Some of Phil Bolger's designs use the inside of the bottom as the sole. Location: Eustis, FL Lister, Bolger was one of the greats, with nearly 700 designs to his credit.


It's difficult to second guess the engineering approach a designer may have incorporated into a particular project. Lastly, the old builder that told you that walking on the planks was wrong, is correct, sometimes. Location: USA It seems that one is sitting in the bilge, so the least bit of H2O and your pants are wet and your sleeping bag. But if your boat is tiny, eliminating all but the absolutely necessary is kind of like an ultralight airplane in that you leave everything off but what you really need, and some boats don't need floor timbers or a sole, but most benefit from them.
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When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Judging from the English narrowboats I've seen (lived in Droitwich for 2 years) and what's on the Internet, they were relatively plain on the inside -- basically working boats for working people.
Incidentally, Paul Fisher at Selway-Fisher has a couple of narrowboat designs, including the Bullfinch, a 36-footer. Possible explanations: they gain extra rigidity from the convex shape of the planking, and they all have some rocker Yes, some rocker will make any flat surface stiffer. Unfortunately, he's mostly known for his eclectic nature and square, common man's designs, which is sad really, considering the volume and scope of his work. If you have a relatively small, traditionally built lapstrake or carvel, you should try to keep you feet on the frames or stringers. I have several designs just like this and the additional loads this imposes was considered in the scantlings, during design development. I have a design that Eric is familiar with, that has the crew walking directly on the bottom planks.


Bundling designers into a lump, because they don't meet his expectations, is a rather narrow minded, if absurd view and should be taken with a grain of old salt. To get WoodenBoat delivered to your door or computer, mobile device of choice, etc, click WB Subscriptions. I've been on the English canals in a narrowboat (not all English canal locks are 7', Steve, but you are right, most are), and I've seen the Dutch ones from the roadside. The one exception is when torturing the ply and that is done during construction using very thin materials. These planks weren't intended to bear weight in this fashion and you could easily pop fasteners, if not actually crack a plank. The boat is a rock under foot, underway or at rest and this was my intention when I drew it up.
And I have a map that shows the working canals that crisscross Europe, from Rotterdam to Vienna, Budapest, St.
Floors are mostly to keep your feet dry or to provide a flat surface to stand on or (usually) both. An 18' powerboat cruiser with a cuddy, may just have enough internal volume, particularity if it's round or V bottomed, to warrant a sole.
On the other hand, this type of build would likely have some sort of sole, be this a simple grating or slates over the frames or a full blown sole.



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