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Most racialists group Indians as part of their "Caucasian" race, but does anyone else wonder if they're actually a narrow-featured variation of so-called "Australoids"? I don't think Indians have any recent Australian specific lineages or the other way around. We're repeating some important information here to ensure that you're making an informed purchase. You will need a Free 3rd-party application that can read the intermediate .acsm file you will receive as download. Defining their identities first as people of color and later as whites, these families provide a lens for understanding how people thought about and experienced race and how these ideas and experiences evolved-how the very meaning of black and white changed-over time. We've put together a collection of resources to help you make a decision regarding whether you should buy this Ebook from us.
Reviews from Goodreads (a popular reviews site) are provided on the same if they're available. You should be able to transfer your purchase to more than one (upto 6) compatible devices as long as your ebook-reading apps have been registered with the same Adobe ID before opening the file. To me they resemble Australian Aborigines to the same extent that Elongated Africans resemble other Africans.
I think the light-skinned type as portrayed in Indian media and Bollywood reflects a more Central Asian type, but if you mean the more predominant 'dark-skinned' or rather black types especially common rural areas and in southern parts of the region, then yes they could be thought of as 'elongated Australoids' even though 'Australoid' is just as specious as all racial definitions go. Mind you that so-called 'Australasian' types are also found throughout Southeast Asia as well, both in the mainland as well as in the Indonesian islands. It should have said "Are Indians related to Austrailians" or something like that rather than caring about what "Most racialists" would say. I don't think of darker skinned Indians as particularly adapted to a hot dry environment (they're mostly platyrrhine), like, Somali's are for example, but they do tend to show less broad facial features and less linear bodies than Australian Aboriginals, probably due to reasons I've already mentioned.
It should have said "Are Indians related to Australians" or something like that rather than caring about what "Most racialists" would say.
Related to the previous point, there was, and to a great extent, still is a practice of labeling traits according to race.
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If Africans could evolve narrow "Caucasian" facial features, I think genetically Australoid people could too. Actually I myself have been stating this for a long time now not only in this thread but in others. In other words, could dark Indians be to Australasians what Horners are to so-called "True Negroes"?
And "oids" is used in the title as well.Inevitably Djehootie steps in and starts talking about Eurocentrics.


The one haplogroup I know they have in common, NRY C, is a very old 'Asian' lineage, meaning non-specific, and also shared by other groups in Asia. Maybe it would be more accurate for me to ask whether Indians are really related to "Caucasians" or instead convergently evolved pseudo-Caucasian features.BTW, while "Caucasian" may not be the best choice of words for a population label, I truthfully do think there is a close connection between European and modern Middle Eastern populations. It is only with the widespread availability of DNA testing and the boom in genealogical research that the frequency with which individuals and entire families crossed the color line has become clear. The Gibsons were wealthy landowners in the South Carolina backcountry who became white in the 1760s, ascending to the heights of the Southern elite and ultimately to the U.S. Though as the Eurocentric nuttiness goes such black types were assigned to the 'Mediterranean Caucasoid' classification just as stereotypical Horn type Africans were, and that their narrow type features prevented them from being called fully 'Australoid'.
I think if you take the Central Asian migration(s) out, Indians would have little to do with (Eastern) Europeans, as well.Interestingly, there HAVE been Late Palaeolithic Australian aboriginal remains that metrically fell out of the modern Aboriginal range, but I don't think they diverged in the 'elongated' direction. I think if you take the Central Asian migration(s) out, Indians would have little to do with (Eastern) Europeans, as well.Agreed. The finding of European skin mutations in the latter would bear this out, but I don't know if we know exactly where these mutations arose. Even in the historical period the Greeks described 'Leuko-Syrians' and then there were the Indo-Aryan Mitanni described by the Amarna Egyptians as having blonde hair and gray eyes.
It has long been proposed that Dravidian languages extended well into Pakistan during prehistory, and that Indus Valley folks in fact spoke a Dravidian language.
There are other anthropological authors who use the more loose term 'Austric' which include such types, but whatever. In terms of phenotype, I wouldn't be surprised if Australian aboriginals would start to look more like some of the more heavily melanated Davidians if they'd come under selection of hot-dry environs. And let's not forget the later periods of Iranian and then Turkish rule that imported European slaves. The latter notion is not a consensus view, of course, but what's interesting is that Mohenjo Daro (Southern Pakistan), and Harappan (Northern Pakistan) burials group with Ancient Egyptian, Sumerian (Kish) and known dark skinned Iranian populations such as prehistoric Tepe Hissar.
Coon (1965) dedicates a page debunking it - showing how only the higher castes (varna) have low NI indices, and narrower faces. The Spencers were hardscrabble farmers in the hills of Eastern Kentucky, joining an isolated Appalachian community in the 1840s and for the better part of a century hovering on the line between white and black. He was a top 3 Trainer in New York 9 Consecutive Years, and the Leading Trainer in New York 6 Consecutive Years.
However, mtDNA lineages sampled so far from south Asia, eastern Asia and Australasia show non-overlapping distributions of haplogroups within pan Eurasian M and N macrohaplogroups. The likely reason why he didn't bother asking if Indians are related to Australians is because unlike YOU he already knows that they are not that closely related.Secondly, your comparison of my use of the term Eurocentric with Mikes' use of the term 'albino' is a failure because Mike's label of all whites or those of European descent being albino is inaccurate while my use of Eurocentric to describe the past centuries of Western scholarship IS accurate. Both C and D seemed to have been overcome by two major waves of F and F-derived lineages from the north from the findings of Spencer Wells and others. Even old Western anthropological literature teems with findings of a 'racial' change of populations in Southwest Asia from older "Hamitic" or even "Negro-like" populations into recent "Alpine" forms. This pattern of Indus Valley affinity is reminiscent of how we already know dark skinned Dravidians group with Ancient Egyptians and Nubians. According to Risley's thinking, the higher castes would have been primarily of Caucasoid ancestry and thus would have longer noses. That said, perhaps you are just as annoyed by my accurate statements because that includes YOU! At the same time, we also know that there is not a whole lot of metric affinity between Egypto-Nubians and Indo-Europeans, and so it would argue against a dominant Indo-European biological foundation for those Indus Valley groups.


If the aboriginal Australoid populations quickly adapted their NI's and other indices, then there should be no link between anthropometrics and castes.
Later studies by Ghurye (1961) and Dutt et al.(1973), however, show Risley's studies were invalid. Together, their interwoven and intersecting stories uncover a forgotten America in which the rules of race were something to be believed but not necessarily obeyed. He said, “Mitochondrial DNA is inherited only from the mother and so allows us to accurately trace ancestry. The glaring discrepancy of the data in the two Indian studies as compared with Risley, despite measuring the same populations, was also startling. We found certain mutations in the DNA sequences of the Indian tribes we sampled that are specific to Australian Aborigines. Getting back to India, there many black types of northwestern India show elongated features and this might well have to do with the fact that they inhabit the Thar Desert area. My position is that Australian aboriginals already look similar to heavily melanated Dravidians in metric analysis, but that it wouldn't surprise me if adaption to a hot-dry environment would increase their affinity.
Instead we see Indians with narrower features, are those from the higher two varna -- showing how Caucasoids took those features there and have preserved them to a greater degree in the higher castes through endogamy.
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There is evidence that Australia during its first settlement had more forests and savannah.We have to remember that climate conditions today were not necessarily the same as back then.
The Australian Aboriginal groups that have come to my attention group metrically with broad featured West Africans, so it makes sense that both groups underwent similar climatic selection. Unfortunately, according to his new book, The - Inside the Hidden World of the Tour de France: Doping, Cover-ups and Winning at All Costs, so is everyone else in the cycling world, even cycling legend Lance Armstrong. And it is this reason why Indians by and large show little relation to Australian aboriginals.
Most of the lineages they share with Aussie indigenes are confined to rural tribal areas in southern and eastern India. And as I've previously stated, the southern coastal route migration continued from South Asia (India) into Southeast Asia before it reached Australia.
During that time period, Southeast Asia was a much larger subcontinent than India with the Malay Peninsula being connected to Indonesia.
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